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To: dennisw

Just a quick aside, haven’t humans had “regenerative agriculture” for the last 8 or 10 thousand years? I mean, after several millennia, hasn’t agriculture pretty much established that it is “regenerative” and “sustainable” (to use that other annoying term)??


5 posted on 01/05/2025 5:15:46 AM PST by TimSkalaBim
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To: TimSkalaBim

“Just a quick aside, haven’t humans had “regenerative agriculture” for the last 8 or 10 thousand years?”

Yeah, it’s called farming. 😁


12 posted on 01/05/2025 5:21:53 AM PST by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: TimSkalaBim

You forgot to add that other annoying term, “resilient.”


22 posted on 01/05/2025 5:27:28 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (Marxism is a politics for the ugly, unwanted, uneducated, unhealthy, and insane.)
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To: TimSkalaBim
I mean, after several millennia, hasn’t agriculture pretty much established that it is “regenerative” and “sustainable” (to use that other annoying term)??

It's been 7,000 years since the dawn of agriculture in Fayum, Egypt and the answer is no. We really are depleting our soils of minerals, worldwide. Humans really haven't made an industry of rebuilding soils in detail, although it is happening in bits and pieces within competitive limits, but there are constraining limits to how we are going about it. You should see the scale of phosphate mining in North Africa (yes, the source is infested with globalist -think, but I don't have time right now to find a better one for you).

When one considers a farming community as operating within a chemical control boundary looking only at inputs and outputs, unless those minerals stay there feeding only that local community (recycling everything in poop), OR unless those minerals are mined somewhere and imported to restore them to soils, pretending that we can "regenerate" soils within a particular site is plainly silly. This is to say nothing of microbial organic matter, which IS regenerable, particularly with the proper use of animals.

Eventually, the minerals wind up washed out to sea. Underwater mining isn't cheap and does have its drawbacks we'll need to figure out how to mitigate. That's just reality.

28 posted on 01/05/2025 5:38:48 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: TimSkalaBim

With the left word defns are never really certain but I think ‘sustainable’ means organic in a broad sense….no fossil fuels or other additives based on them.


38 posted on 01/05/2025 6:02:35 AM PST by 556x45
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To: TimSkalaBim

“hasn’t agriculture pretty much established that it is “regenerative” and “sustainable” (to use that other annoying term)??”

Absolutely not. Dumping massive amounts of man-made nitrogen fertilizer, phosphorus and potassium into deep tilled top soil that washes away into the rivers taking not only thousands of years worth of topsoil with it but also all those man-made ffertilizers. Both of which cause lasting and real damage to the watershed and oceans. The Gulf of Mexico huge anoxic dead zone is 100% caused by fertilizer run off down the Mississippi River system.

It takes thousands of years for topsoil to form and deep till farming is causing it’s loss at a horrific rate. Open Google then ,Google scholar and ask Gemini about topsoil losses. Then ask Gemini about fertilizer run off and toxic algae blooms and anoxic dead zones. No part of modern mechanized agriculture is sustainable ,from the petrochemical based fertilizers to the deep till farming, to huge amounts of pesticides and glycophosphates every aspect of it is polar opposite of regenerative agriculture.


69 posted on 01/05/2025 7:42:13 AM PST by GenXPolymath
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To: TimSkalaBim

Yeah until mansanto came along and corporate farming destroyed the regeneration aspect of the past millennia


79 posted on 01/05/2025 8:47:37 AM PST by Rural_Michigan
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