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Trump Wants Greenland and the Panama Canal. It’s About Climate.
The New York Times ^ | Dec. 31, 2024 | Lisa Friedman

Posted on 01/01/2025 2:10:39 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum

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To: Angelino97

Still trying to compare apples and oranges for the attempted validation of the leftist Trump-Putin paradigm? never mind denying the fact about Denmark not being a sovereign nation for the second time. On top of that, there’s the implication that Trump would somehow force Greenland to be sold to the US, which he would not do either way.

Opus?


41 posted on 01/02/2025 8:27:51 PM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Angelino97

What’s your beef against the USA? Maybe you should go to DU.


42 posted on 01/02/2025 8:39:10 PM PST by rxh4n1 ( )
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To: rxh4n1

So if I oppose Neocon imperialist expansion, it means I have a “beef” against the US?


43 posted on 01/02/2025 9:43:36 PM PST by Angelino97
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To: Angelino97

I see you’re calling Trump a “neocon imperialist expansionist”. Laughable, since “imperialist” is a favorite buzzword of the left.

Opus?


44 posted on 01/02/2025 10:18:57 PM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Olog-hai
Laughable, since “imperialist” is a favorite buzzword of the left.

Actually, libertarians and paleocons have also long used the term "imperialist."

But ... so what? As Rush used to say, words have meaning. If a big country pressures a small country to "sell" their land, that's imperialism.

And Denmark has made it clear that it does not want to sell Greenland.

So unless you're an imperialist, that should be the end of the matter.

45 posted on 01/02/2025 10:38:37 PM PST by Angelino97
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To: Angelino97

When you use leftist terms like “imperialism” you do.


46 posted on 01/03/2025 12:32:21 AM PST by rxh4n1 ( )
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To: Angelino97

Neither libertarian nor “paleocon” (a misnomer) are conservative. Leave the argument from authority (a logical fallacy) out of this.

Not to mention Trump has thus far been more libertarian in practice than libertarians fancy themselves to be, although he is more socially conservative in many areas.

The opinion of Denmark’s current prime minister (who is a social democrat) has no bearing on what the people might want. Not to mention the fact that the head of state of Denmark is King Frederick X, who might be amenable to selling Greenland if Trump presents attractive terms. Of course, the European Union, a highly imperialistic entity in and of itself, would have its own opinion and since they generally are Trump haters, they would oppose such a purchase. (Are you still trying to equate purchase with invasion, seriously? by altering the meaning of “pressure”? lol)

You’re up too late. You have a nice evening.


47 posted on 01/03/2025 12:33:05 AM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Olog-hai
Neither libertarian nor “paleocon” (a misnomer) are conservative. Leave the argument from authority (a logical fallacy) out of this.

You're the one who dragged "argument from pedigree" into this.

You stated that "imperialist" was a leftist term, as if that were enough to discredit the concept. I merely observed that non-leftists also use the term.

If you don't want to discuss a word's pedigree, don't raise the subject in the first place.

And of course paleocons are conservative.

48 posted on 01/03/2025 1:07:08 AM PST by Angelino97
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To: Olog-hai
Are you still trying to equate purchase with invasion, seriously?

Are you still trying to put words in my mouth?

Yes, imperialism has many forms, including economic and political pressure. Such pressure hardly constitutes an arms-length "purchase."

49 posted on 01/03/2025 1:09:55 AM PST by Angelino97
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To: rxh4n1

Ron Paul and Pat Buchanan also use the term “imperialist.”


50 posted on 01/03/2025 1:11:39 AM PST by Angelino97
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To: Angelino97

Two other whackadoodles. So buying Greenland and taking the Panama Canal back are “Neo-con Imperialist” ideas? We are not imperialists, thru our history we are expansionist, way different.


51 posted on 01/03/2025 1:14:25 AM PST by rxh4n1 ( )
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To: rxh4n1
We are not imperialists, thru our history we are expansionist, way different.

Ah yes. It's interesting how you can put different spins on the same thing merely by a choice of words.

I'm passionate. You're hysterical.

I'm principled. You're fanatical.

I'm steady. You're stubborn.

I'm sober. You're stuffy.

I'm daring. You're reckless.

52 posted on 01/03/2025 1:19:52 AM PST by Angelino97
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To: Angelino97

I’m repeating your own words back at you, lol.

I hope you get over your never-Trumpism.


53 posted on 01/03/2025 2:29:21 PM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Olog-hai

As I did to you.

And there are few things on the internet more lame than a fake “lol”.


54 posted on 01/03/2025 6:15:34 PM PST by Angelino97
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
The New York Times is to Democrats what The Watchtower is to Jehovah's Witnesses.

It's what they read to find out what to believe this week.

And has a long history of spurious doomsday prophesy.

55 posted on 02/26/2025 7:46:09 AM PST by Salman (In Hell it is a punishable offense not to call it Heaven.)
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To: Jim W N

Greenland is not without pluses


56 posted on 02/26/2025 7:47:10 AM PST by wardaddy (Joy, can you cook fried chicken?)
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To: Angelino97

You have to act in national interests

At some point the mineral and fossil fuel wealth there will need to be tapped more

It’s too close to us to let a true rival get it

China would love it

They need the oil exponentially more than Putin does

The climate argument I’m skeptical


57 posted on 02/26/2025 7:50:17 AM PST by wardaddy (Joy, can you cook fried chicken?)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Paywall


58 posted on 02/26/2025 7:54:45 AM PST by JerseyDvl (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.)
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