So you are suggesting old injustices should be ignored?
I tend to be an absolutist. We should not meekly accept a situation created by someone ignoring constitutional law and doing whatever they want simply because they have power.
Wait. Isn't that your *EXACT POINT* regarding how the 14th amendment is misinterpreted to allow all the nonsense?
You are saying the creative "interpretation" of the 14th to allow "gay marriage", anchor babies, abortion and banning prayers in school is a "lie".
Why isn't the creation of the 14th also a lie?
An absolutist reading of the Constitutional Amendment process does not allow the Federal government to control states and *FORCE* them to vote for things their people do not want.
If you complain about people misusing the US Constitution, does not what they did to create the 14th amendment also fall into the category of misusing the constitution and lying about it's meaning?
Heh. These words from the guy who says he thinks thinks that a slavery amendment after a war not fought over prayer in schools would authorize ending prayer in schools.
Stop putting your words in my mouth. I absolutely reject the idea that those things come out of the 14th amendment, but I recognize that the courts *SAY* the 14th amendment created those ridiculous results.
*NONE* of us agree with using the 14th amendment to create any of those results, but we recognize that the courts who created them, claim it was the 14th amendment which gave them the power to do so.
Why do you keep trying to accuse us of supporting ideas we don't support?
Not at all. I'm the one who points out that the British Empire forced slavery upon the United States, by vetoing our pre-U.S.-colonial laws that would've started the process, remember?
(all of this paragraph is irrelevant to the discussion but it adds context)But I don't support Britain paying reparations to African Americans. Old injustices are just that. Old. The new injustice is The 1619 Project. So this information about British vetos becomes very valuable then. The U.S. is actually a victim in the slavery arena. We have the text of the vetos to prove it.
In any case back to the 14th if there's something that needs to be fixed, then let's fix it.
"We should not meekly accept a situation created by someone ignoring constitutional law and doing whatever they want simply because they have power.
Wait. Isn't that your *EXACT POINT* regarding how the 14th amendment is misinterpreted to allow all the nonsense?"
No, it's not the exact point. There is no misinterpretation. There is only a lie. Progressives are liars first and foremost. Let me explain something to you. There's two rules to follow here. Only two are required:
First. Progressives are liars.
Second. If you ever have any doubts whatsoever, refer back to rule number 1.
On some topic related to black people specifically, we can talk misinterpretation. On some topic like prayer in schools no. The Civil War was not fought over prayer in schools. Am I still lecturing you Civil War guy that the Civil War was not fought over prayer in schools?
"Why isn't the creation of the 14th also a lie?"
A fair question. Problem is, the civil war is over. All we can do now is fix the amendment or repeal it. Complaining to me isn't getting it fixed one or the other.
"*NONE* of us agree with using the 14th amendment to create any of those results, but we recognize that the courts who created them, claim it was the 14th amendment which gave them the power to do so."
Given the construct of this sentence I'm not putting words into your mouth. You own them. That sentence should have contained the word lie, but it did not. So I'm not putting any single word whatsoever in your mouth. You're doing it very deftly all on your own.
You keep doing this. Very, very consistent. You say the courts are using it, you say the courts are claiming it. But never once, ever, do you say the claim is a lie. That trust is never broken. If I missed it I apologize, but I cannot say I have ever seen that trust broken.
You are completely stuck on being wedded to the idea that yes, this has to come from the 14th. For whatever reason, you're unwilling to entertain that perhaps progressive lies stand alone.
"Why do you keep trying to accuse us of supporting ideas we don't support?"
See post 137 or 136. https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/4287265/posts?page=137#137 Note the difference between the two. BTW, my word is belief not support.