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To: ProgressingAmerica; DiogenesLamp; x
Thread titled: "Software engineer describes his experience with H1B."

DiogenesLamp post #43: "Time for another Civil War clarifying moment."

DiogenesLamp post #65 "The Declaration articulates a right to independence.
It does not argue for a conditional right, it argues for an absolute right to independence for any and all reasons
[meaning "at pleasure"]."

ProgressingAmerica to BJK & others #78: "It is unclear to me why the doctrine of the living and breathing constitution is so popular with conservatives."

BJK #80: "It isn't."

ProgressingAmerica #101: "The only important issue at the moment is the 14th Amendment, given that the large context backing all of this is the Civil War."

Nobody here is defending a "living and breathing constitution" and your claims otherwise are pure fantasy.

Neither is anybody here defending SCOTUS' wildly imaginative interpretations of the 14 Amendment.
Those are clearly nonsense and should be reversed by the Court itself, or by Congress with clarifying laws.

125 posted on 01/07/2025 4:02:42 AM PST by BroJoeK (future DDG 134 -- we remember)
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To: BroJoeK
Neither is anybody here defending SCOTUS' wildly imaginative interpretations of the 14 Amendment. Those are clearly nonsense and should be reversed by the Court itself, or by Congress with clarifying laws.

The imaginative interpretations of the 14th would not have happened were the 14th not so badly written, and had it actually been created through a legitimate ratification process.

The subsequent problems caused by the 14th amendment are a direct consequence of the Civil War, because without it, and without subjugating the Southern states to puppet status, that 14th amendment would never have been "passed."

132 posted on 01/07/2025 6:32:31 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: BroJoeK; jeffersondem; x; DiogenesLamp; SeekAndFind; Tell It Right; FLT-bird
The 14th Amendment is a slavery amendment devised after a war which was not fought over prayer in schools.

14th Amendment does not end prayer in schools.

14th Amendment is not capable of ending prayer in schools.

Anybody who affirmatively believes the 14th amendment is a capable of doing this ridiculousness is a firm believer in the doctrine of the living and breathing constitution.


136 posted on 01/07/2025 6:59:38 AM PST by ProgressingAmerica (We cannot vote our way out of these problems. The only way out is to activist our way out.)
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