I thought you gratuitously threw in the comment about women not having the right to vote in the Confederate states because women's causes are so popular today and this, in some way, would wrong foot and retroactively disqualify the southern independence movement.
In fact, that is exactly what you are doing.
And I don't understand why since Union states were not championing women's right to vote. The 15th amendment, adopted years after federal bayonets bought brotherhood, prohibited states from denying the right to vote based on race, color, or previous condition of servitude.
The 15th amendment and federal bayonets did not grant black women or white women the right to vote. That would come generations later. Before, during, and for some time after the 1860s southern thought on women's suffrage was very much in the American mainstream.
You thought wrong.
I've explained exactly what I meant -- that slavers who claimed an "unlimited right of secession" for themselves granted no such "right" to the majority of people in their states, including slaves, freedmen, women & Unionists.
My point is, those slavers, like you and DiogenesLamp today, didn't really believe in an "unlimited right of secession", only in their own "rights" to declare whatever the h*ll they wanted, whenever they wanted to and for whatever reasons, or no reasons, they thought appropriate, IOW "at pleasure".