Posted on 12/25/2024 10:20:58 AM PST by marcusmaximus
President-elect Trump’s choice for special envoy to Ukraine and Russia, retired Lt. Gen. Keith Kellogg, slammed the Russian military missile and drone attack on Christmas Day and said the U.S. is “more resolved than ever to bring peace to the region.”
“Christmas should be a time of peace, yet Ukraine was brutally attacked on Christmas Day,” Kellogg wrote Wednesday on social platform X. “Launching large-scale missile and drone attacks on the day of the Lord’s birth is wrong. The world is closely watching actions on both sides. The U.S. is more resolved than ever to bring peace to the region.”
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You are truly juvenile. Try to come out with an intelligent comment. You can disagree with me, which is fine. And I can disagree with you. That is what a comment board is about. Or is debate to threatening for you?
Outing you again seems to have brought out the real you.
BS…I served during the Cold War. Our losses were the result of our interventionism. Being the world’s policeman has a price that America first didn’t want to pay…but we were forced
You haven’t outed me. You have shown yourself to be an infantile doofus. You have outed yourself. Thank you.
Either a long-term sleeper account, or borrowed or stolen from the person who created it.
Tough talk. You’re suppose to be ending this war not escalating it.
“let Kiev stay dark”
What will Ukie Military Age Males do if they can’t go out partying every night
in Kiev?
He is a troll who shows up here occasionally under different accounts and at times has been fun because he will engage with people for hours after being outed.
Ozone. Lots and lots of ozone.
What attacks and negativity?
What “many other” Orthodox countries?
The following countries celebrate Orthodox Christmas on “our” Jan. 7: Belarus, Bulgaria, Egypt, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Georgia, Israel, Kazakhstan, Macedonia, Moldova, Montenegro, Russia and Serbia — and some in Greece, such as the monks on Mt. Athos. (And the Armenian Apostolic Church observes Christmas Day on January 6.) Many Orthodox Churches here in the US also do.
The only Orthodox majority countries who do not are Greece (since the 1920s — and with some holdouts) and Ukraine (since 2023).
You ignored my statement that I don’t care which calendar a church chooses to go by.
I don’t think much of politicians deciding church matters for political reasons or appointing themselves head of the church in their countries, whether it was Henry VIII crowning himself head of the Church of England or Zelensky breaking one thousand years of tradition to be “more like us” for political reasons.
You seem to think everyone should be “more like us”. Well, that’s your opinion. Mine differs. I don’t like our strong arming Sierra Leone on abortion (be “more like us and kill more babies”) or pushing various African countries to be “more like us” and accept gay marriage. Being “more like us” isn’t necessarily a good thing.
As for which day they celebrate Christmas — does it really matter what day it is, so long as it’s a Church decision, and not a political one? I respect their traditions, and in my experience they respect ours.
Also, on a practical note, it was kind of nice having Orthodox in the office who didn’t mind working around or even on Dec. 25, and the rest of us happy to work around and on Jan. 7 when they wanted time off with their families.
Anyway, you seem to see it all through a political lens: “more like us and our allies” vs “like those dastardly Russians”. I consider it purely a Church matter.
“Trump cannot do a damn thing with the cards he has been given by those who desire war as a profitable enterprise.”
Then Ukies should fight to the last Male.
Other Countries Males will have fun breeding young YouCrayne Women who fled
to other Countries when the War Stated.
At least you finally admitted there were losses, many were thanks to Russia assisting the invasions of South Vietnam and South Korea, and as communists, anywhere else Russia thought it could advance against freedom.
Again you don’t read my posts well, I didn’t ignore your statement about you not caring, I pointed out how much you actually do care by quoting your negative and critical attack on Ukraine and their Orthodox church changing the date.
““That is, until Zelensky decreed Christmas would henceforth be celebrated on December 25 last year. Yes, in 2023, for the first time in history going all the way back to the 10th century, Ukraine celebrated Christmas on Dec. 25th. I guess he figured if Henry VIII could appoint himself head of the Church of England ...”
“No, I will stay here and fight you who support the Biden insane policy…”
Ah, I knew you were comprehension impaired. Thanks for proving it.
I do not support Biden’s policy in Ukraine. I’ve said it dozens of times.
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I criticized a politician for sticking his nose in Church business and upending a thousand-year-old tradition, He purportedly did it to “remove traces of Soviet and Russian influence”. Ha. The Ukrainian Orthodox (and Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church) had always used the Julian calendar.
Soviet Christmas? No such thing! First, they banned all religious celebrations, including Christmas, along with Grandfather Frost (their version of Santa Claus) and Christmas trees. Then Stalin decided they could have a nice atheist pagan-ish New Year celebration, and decreed Grandfather Frost must visit on January 1, New Year’s Day (but no, not on January 7!) and New Year trees were allowed. The atheist commies had no truck with Christmas.
What Zelensky, a politician, did was break age-old *Ukrainian* tradition. For political reasons. I am not impressed. But it’s not really my business as I am not Ukrainian Orthodox nor a Ukrainian Eastern Rite Catholic. It’s not your business, either, if you don’t belong to an affected church.
Your attacks on the Ukrainian Orthodox Church decision and the resulting legislation are only getting longer and they continue, we see this anger and these attacks on many threads now, this new passion revealed on these threads show that some are really bothered when Orthodox move to the more common date.
I’m not angry, but you seem to be. You’re very good at projection.
You do a lot of that reversing thing.
Look at everyone of your negative posts about the Ukrainian Orthodox Church and the Ukraine people adopting the common date, your hostility to is is long and clear and persistent in post after post, yet you always add that you don’t care about it.
Read every thread today where the subject comes up and you will see that same hostility and anger at Ukraine’s choice.
No, there is no hostility. I think everyone can see who is upset and hostile and who isn’t.
You started in on me when all I had posted about was how nice everything was between Orthodox Christians and Catholic and Protestant Christians on FR on the old Balkans threads on FR.
You are one who seems to see “hostility” and “anger” everywhere — but in the mirror.
We have differing opinions on politicians sticking their noses into church matters. Fine. I really don’t care and it doesn’t make me angry. This has grown quite tiresome, however.
No, you posted to me in post 76 and I replied in post 96, you then started your hostility toward Ukraine’s decision in post 105, with the added statement after the attack on it, of how you don’t care about it, a style you then repeated in multiple posts.
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