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To: buwaya

It just seems more expensive, but I doubt it is, if you were to do a financial audit of the respective healthcare systems and their sources of funding. All socialist nations use hidden taxes to conceal how much they screw over their citizenry.

In America, you live one gradient better on the same income than in Europe.

I would never want socialized medicine if I had a choice in the matter. Socialized medicine is a big reason why I am not loyal to my country. If my country’s survival was dependent upon me, and me alone, I will lift up a beer to the demise of Canada.

Socialism has made Canada a criminal nation that can only do right when it ceases to exist.


24 posted on 12/23/2024 5:32:28 PM PST by Jonty30 (Genghis Khan did not have the most descendants. His father had more. )
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To: Jonty30

Sources of funding are irrelevant if you are just auditing expenditures, and that is a standard part of national accounts reporting.

https://www.oecd.org/en/data/indicators/health-spending.html

” All socialist nations use hidden taxes to conceal how much they screw over their citizenry.”

This is an assertion without evidence. Indeed, the US is a specialist in this because it has tended to hide taxation as “unfunded mandates” - look it up. There are economic arguments on all this going back a half-century.


26 posted on 12/23/2024 5:38:55 PM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: Jonty30

“It just seems more expensive, but I doubt it is, if you were to do a financial audit of the respective healthcare systems and their sources of funding. All socialist nations use hidden taxes to conceal how much they screw over their citizenry.”

As I understand matters Swiss hospital capital costs are financed by property taxation. In Florida and Texas, property taxation for public hospital funding is fairly common.

There are various tariffs that are published. Circa 2010 I did research. I can do such research again, and post examples.

“On March 31, 2023, the Agency for Technical Hospital Information (ATIH) published the 2023 DRG tariffs and tariffs for other packages and supplements.”

https://mtrconsult.com/news/2023-drg-tariffs-published-france


30 posted on 12/23/2024 5:51:18 PM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: Jonty30

We aren’t really talking about socialism here.

The degree of state control (socialism) over medical care, between the US and, say, France is about the same. Both are largely funded by taxation, both have a strong element of employer mandates, both have highly regulated private insurance, both have mostly private medical care delivery, but highly regulated. In terms of who pays, between taxes and mandates the French cover 100% and the US covers 90+%. Thats not a substantive difference.

The difference is that the French system is more efficient, and that is not a matter of who pays, but is driven by the chaotic regulatory structure of the US.


31 posted on 12/23/2024 5:51:26 PM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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