We aren’t really talking about socialism here.
The degree of state control (socialism) over medical care, between the US and, say, France is about the same. Both are largely funded by taxation, both have a strong element of employer mandates, both have highly regulated private insurance, both have mostly private medical care delivery, but highly regulated. In terms of who pays, between taxes and mandates the French cover 100% and the US covers 90+%. Thats not a substantive difference.
The difference is that the French system is more efficient, and that is not a matter of who pays, but is driven by the chaotic regulatory structure of the US.
You are talking about socialism. The crap about government having to have its name on the ownership document for it to be socialism allows the loophole the liberal wants so he can work towards 100% taxation and wealth redistribution without having to acknowledge the socialism he desires. 100% taxation and 100% wealth distribution and it’s not socialism, because the government doesn’t have its name on the ownership document.
If it walks like wealth confiscation and wealth distribution, it is wealth confiscation and wealth distribution, regardless of what you want to call it.
Just because the US has become corrupted by socialism does not mean socialism is justifiable. You can never justify using somebody, until they get used up, for your personal benefit. It’s an evil mentality that views other people as resources for themselves. It’s nothing less than plantation values. The liberals wants to turn the US into a plantation nation, so he can live well on other people’s money.
Sorry, Europe is an enslaver continent. Their hewing to socialism is why Europe is being removed from the face of the earth. They have been judged by God and found wanting. If they don’t repent, they will be no more and replaced by somebody else.