Posted on 12/23/2024 3:41:58 PM PST by DIRTYSECRET
The Canadians have banned private health insurance for anything deemed medically necessary by the state. That has not resulted in a socialist paradise, where no medical claim is ever denied. The state keeps a lid on spending by forcing Canadians to wait for care.
The story is similar in Britain. Private insurance is legal. 1 in 8 Britons has it. They buy it because wait times for care in the publicly run health care system are interminable.
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Then you should be able to show it then. You haven’t done this.
Even if you showed this it doesn’t justify the idea of using people and using them up for personal benefit.
“Math is math.”
The Saskatchewan doctor fee schedule is what doctors get in Saskatchewan - and it is far less than what American doctors charge.
The Saskatchewan doctors aren’t getting twice or three times as much under the table from the government.
The Canadian maximum drug prices were typically online the last time I checked years ago.
“Then you should be able to show it then. You haven’t done this.”
The complaints about NHS underfunding are known to almost all adult Brits.
If the UK government was giving the NHS more, the politicians would be glad to inform the voting public.
Do you really expect me to be able to research Slovak medical funding?
“The NHS exercises mercy killing by denying the infirmed water.”
My uncle who built the house I’m in died of kidney failure.
I’m sure they didn’t mean to kill him, but lack of water almost certainly did him in.
Whatever a doctor gets as pay, it has cost me $6,000/yr, every years, for all of my life. Over $200,000 so far and none of that money remains for my use. My money is gone and spent. For me to be compensated, I have to do to another person for my benefit. I have to rob children of their future to make up for what was taken from me.
If they refuse to pay up, I get to persecute and prosecute and kill them for my benefit.
This is the morality of liberalism. The liberal only cares about himself and to hell with everybody else. If somebody ends on the street, to pay for the healthcare of the liberal, the liberal doesn’t care. The only thing the liberal cares about is himself.
I don’t care what a doctor gets paid. I only care about what it has cost me for a healthcare system I do not benefit from. It has cost me over $200,000 directly and it has cost me $700,000 indirectly, through lost investments, and it has cost me about $30,000/yr in foregone income to pay for something I do not benefit from.
You are an example as to why liberalism is an immoral philosphy. YOu only care about yourself and do not care about the costs to other people. You have sold your children into poverty for you present benefit, but I suspect that you don’t care because you get healthcare for yourself.
You still haven’t shown me all sources of funding for the public healthcare system, so I am well grounded in stating the funding you brought up is not all the funding that goes into it.
I expect you to support your arguements by showing me all the sources of funding, direct and indirect and hidden, to pay for socialist medicine.
They didn’t mean to kill him? They denied him water until his kidneys failed.
Liberal always use the phrase, “I meant well” when their philosophy ends lives.
“You go buy $300 worth of books that relates to all things healthcare and lifestyle and you’d have 95% of all your healthcare needs met without relying upon anybody else.”
Sylvia’s daughters both need biologics for auto-immune diseases. One granddaughter has an auto-immune condition.
I get by on the books and Pinot Noir quite well, but not all people can.
I also pay Medicare premiums because in future years I might get unlucky.
“It has cost me over $200,000 directly and it has cost me $700,000 indirectly, through lost investments, and it has cost me about $30,000/yr in foregone income to pay for something I do not benefit from.”
Pretty much the same can be said for millions of people, both north and south of the 49th.
I understand the shafting. I only escaped because I was healthy (and remain so) and because I’m low income.
I unfortunately will probably die of cancer, and probably not cheaply. And unfortunately, I can no longer assume I’ll be healthy, as I could in past years.
The $300 in books is for basic healthcare and lifestyle that you can do on your own with little difficulty. It does not take a healthcare system to ensure you eat properly or sleep regularly. That’s on you.
Another person’s healthcare needs is no excuse to using me up. I’m not going to have the same societal support for healthcare when I need it. My money was taken for another and the population won’t be there, or be in position to support me. Does that bypass your understanding somehow?
Your children are bereft of their own ability to support themselves, because you robbed them of their future when you took their resources to pay for your healthcare.
You want to tell me the source that I can use for healthcare when everything was taken from me and there are insufficient numbers of children coming up after me and even less for them?
Liberals are the most selfish people on earth. You don’t seem to care what you have done to the children. If they have to prostitute themselves and work in salt mines until they die, you don’t care. You got your healthcare, so you’re good. You are why I argue that liberalism is an extremely evil philsophy. Liberals only care about themselves. }
You have given evidence in a very public manner about how you just care about yourself. What happens to other people, after you are gone, does not matter to you. You left a desolate world for future generations so you could live well for yourself.
When dealing with one issue, modern medicine can do rather well. And a second issue and things can go to hell.
Right. Baby boomers and liberals, in socialist countries, robbed future generations of their future for self interest reasons. Millions of people around the world, who are younger than baby boomers, were robbed of their future. Those who robbed them don’t care, because they think they got away with it because they expect to be dead before the bill is due.
I am infuriated over this, not for myself you understand. I am infuriated over it because it is beyond my comprehension as to how somebody can be so cruel and sell their children into poverty just so they have good lives for themselves. It’s a straight up violation of trust between generations.
Modern medicine is only doing well for the baby boomers. Everybody else, it will completely fail, so nothing works. That’s the nature of socialism. It robs society of everything.
Everybody is going to have to go on the Maduro diet to get by for what liberals did to them. It’s why I argue that liberalism is a crime against humanity.
“Another person’s healthcare needs is no excuse to using me up. I’m not going to have the same societal support for healthcare when I need it. My money was taken for another and the population won’t be there, or be in position to support me. Does that bypass your understanding somehow?”
It does not.
However, here stands before you Mrs. Sick, this very day.
She can pay $9,000/year towards her $165,000/year care.
Does she get the McCain thumbs down and get to greet St. Peter, or not?
“Modern medicine is only doing well for the baby boomers.”
In twenty years and six months, all drugs now under patent will be off patent, potentially available cheaply to those now paying their first decade of Medicare taxation.
“You have given evidence in a very public manner about how you just care about yourself. What happens to other people, after you are gone, does not matter to you. You left a desolate world for future generations so you could live well for yourself.”
My mainly rice dinner is in a pot.
I worked to develop the Internet in the 1980s. It doesn’t seem desolate to me.
I live well because I know how.
I support FR so that I may educate others.
It does too. Public healthcare is dependent upon sufficient numbers of young people to rob of their future in order to fund it. Our generations killed our children, so we could live freely and to our self-interest.
Consequently, there are insufficient numbers of young people to fund my eventual needed healthcare, so I will not have as much healthcare as you get. It’ math.
Insufficient numbers of children = insufficient level of healthcare. No children = no healthcare. Again, it’s math.
Liberals thought the could get around math by betraying their nations and importing third worlds. The consequence to this third worlds who only want to receive healthcare and impose thier culture upon their host countries. Liberals have sold thier nations into slavery, out of self interest.
Oh brother, bad at math are you?
Do you think the reduced number of children, funding healthcare, can be compensated by drugs at half prices and a large bureaucracy to manage healthcare.
Remember, no children means no healthcare for you.
Do you need to see how impoverished your children will be before you come to an understanding of what you helped your fellow liberals do to them?
I’m not concerned about you. I also don’t get to eat the finest of dinners, because of the money that is left over for me after paying for the healthcare of liberals.
You live well, because you use other people’s money to live well. That’s how you get your healthcare paid for. You don’t pay for the entire healthcare load yourself and you certainly aren’t paying for other people because you use people to pay for yourself. It’s math again, darnit.
Socialist medicine is also a short cut to solving a problem. If we had chosen, instead, to design a system that funds itself and was volunteer to join, you’d have all that healthcare that you could want and do it right.
The job of the youth is to build their own lives, so they can buy homes and have children and get their education and build businesses, etc. When we force them to divert resources to us, for our old age and infirmity, we hurt them. We also end up also draining society of its future.
There is no shortcut to this. That’s why socialist medicine doesn’t work or work out in the end. You have to feed society with replacements for society to survive. Socialism, in all its forms, predates upon society until there is nothing left.
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