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The is the first documented instance of a grizzly bear charge being decisively stopped with a .410 shotgun.

Do not underestimate the power of these small shotguns.

1 posted on 12/22/2024 5:14:36 AM PST by marktwain
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Wonder if all the shot was still in the wad at that distance.


2 posted on 12/22/2024 5:28:51 AM PST by sasquatch (Do NOT forget Ashli Babbit! c/o piytar)
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The moral of the story is do not underestimate the power of a 410 with 7 1/2 bird shot. This guy was smart enough (or simply had no other choice) to fire at close range keeping the shot closely knit enough to do proper damage.

I am a firm believer in using bird shot for self defense simply because it spreads out more with distance. For my magazine fed 12 ga I alternate between #4 Pheasant (about 1500 fps) with double aught (about 1325 fps). Range testing with the #4 shows I can hit anything at 50 yards by just pointing and shooting. The pellets will penetrate plywood about an 1/8 inch at 50 yards. The 00 Buck will pass through 1/2” plywood at 50 yards.

I would feel very comfortable going up against a bear or other intruder with this weapon.


3 posted on 12/22/2024 5:30:36 AM PST by redfreedom (May God save us from what the Democrats do in the name of good.)
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My phone floods with ads when I visit Ammoland. Did a concentrated discharge go straight up the bear’s snout or through her eye socket? I agree that any firearm can be a deadly firearm. Actors and crew have been killed with blanks when mishandling prop guns.


4 posted on 12/22/2024 5:30:38 AM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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I’ve never heard the part about a bear’s eyes being either red or green.


5 posted on 12/22/2024 5:33:13 AM PST by caver
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With an unloaded, bolt action, single shot 410, I stopped a robbery by 4 black guys one night, but I don’t think a theatrical bluff threat would impress a bear the same way it impressed them.


11 posted on 12/22/2024 5:53:50 AM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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At the distance the shot was fired, the shot was a near solid mass when it struck the bear. I have no doubt that it would penetrate a bears skull at that range. I used to know an old farmer here who killed his domestic hogs with a .410 with bird shot. From a couple of feet away, the little .410 worked fine, every time. Certainly wouldn’t be my first choice to stop a bear though....


12 posted on 12/22/2024 5:54:48 AM PST by Quickgun (I got here kicking,screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I can go out that way if I have to)
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Wow, bu5 any gun if it hits just right will be deadly or deter. A friend killed a large black bear with a .22- hit it just right- that friend also hid out in the barn one night to try to catch e their that was stealing grain. Lo and behold, a black bear went walking 8nto the barn, poked its head around the stall wall, and got a slap in the face by the friend. The bear took off like a rocket it was so startled.

Anyway, a 410 seems a bit weak, but yeah, if it hits the face, even if it doesn’t kill, it will certainly drive off a bear- it’s gotta be wicked painful, plus blinding


15 posted on 12/22/2024 6:01:01 AM PST by Bob434
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I hadda grin at the description of the guy. Longjohns. Hat w/earflaps. I never saw the movie but it made me think of a picture I saw of Randy Quaid in a movie, “Cousin Eddy.”


19 posted on 12/22/2024 6:16:03 AM PST by LouAvul (He that ruleth over men must be just, ruling in the fear of God. [2 Sam 23:3])
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Got my first gun when I was 10 or 12.

It was a 410 pump.

My dad told me it would be good for rabbits and squirrels.

Still got it.


24 posted on 12/22/2024 7:06:00 AM PST by Biblebelter
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I had a favorite .410 but James has a good one! I loved mine. Never taken anything larger than a pheasant. If mine downed a huge bear it would set in a place of prominence in my home.

Awesome story.


26 posted on 12/22/2024 8:18:00 AM PST by Delta 21 (If anyone is treasonous, it is those who call me such.)
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James Beeman. Surprised he wasn’t carrying a pellet rifle.

This happened in 2003.


27 posted on 12/22/2024 8:21:25 AM PST by Rural_Michigan
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Taken out by .410 with birdshot. If there’s a Grizzly Hall of Shame that bear is in it.


31 posted on 12/22/2024 10:54:29 AM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (The same people who are outraged at "cultural appropriation" fully support "gender appropriation".)
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When I lived in Alaska I would sportfish for halibut. When these flatfish get up around 50 pounds they can wreak havoc on the deck of a small boat so it is common practice to shoot them in the head, I used a ,410 “snakecharmer” that was a cheap stainless single shot which made it inherently safe in the tight confines of a boat. Of course they were still in the water when I dispatched them. One day I got the shells mixed up and used a slug instead of #7.5 shot. I probably would not have noticed except just after I gaffed the fish it flipped and I pulled the trigger as the muzzle was on the nose instead of between the eyes and the whole head peeled back like a banana. That was amusing and it taught me to leave the slugs on shore 🤪


32 posted on 12/22/2024 11:06:42 AM PST by 43north (Dear God, after I die don't let me vote democrat.)
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