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The Porsche Design Tower In Miami Is Sinking
Motor1 ^ | 16 Dec 2024 | Jeff Perez

Posted on 12/17/2024 11:29:04 AM PST by DUMBGRUNT

Opened in 2014, the Porsche Design Tower was the first automaker-branded residence in the city—and one of the first buildings anywhere in the world with a car elevator. It has since spawned competitors like the 818-foot Aston Martin skyscraper just down the road, with other automaker residences soon to pop up from brands like Bentley, Mercedes-Benz, and even Pagani.

But now, some of those companies may want to give their skyscrapers a second thought.

(Excerpt) Read more at motor1.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Gardening; Humor
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To: nwrep

How about the people who signed off on it?

Were they all women, too?


41 posted on 12/17/2024 12:29:34 PM PST by mewzilla (Swing away, Mr. President, swing away!)
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To: citizen

LOL, thanks


42 posted on 12/17/2024 12:30:55 PM PST by nwrep
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To: freepersup

IIRC Mulholland was not an engineer and some grievous engineering errors had been made on that project.

An older relative worked on the John Hancock Building and I heard ALL about it. Interesting stuff!

Short version:

August 24, 1966 – Developers of the 100-story John Hancock Center at Michigan Avenue and Delaware Place announce that they have ordered a second round of tests for 57 caissons, a portion of the caissons that will form the foundation of the building. The action comes after voids and imperfections are found in five of those caissons, starting about 60 feet below ground level. Engineers predict that testing and repairs will continue for three weeks. Construction on the super-tall building was halted on August 5 when a caisson moved sideways after a 12-ton test beam was placed on top of it. J. Theodor Dailey, a co-developer on the project, says, “Such a review is necessary because of the unique design of the building, its foundation, and soil conditions at the site. When approved, the foundation will have undergone one of the most complete analysis in construction history.” [Chicago Tribune, August 25, 1966]. The problems originated with the steel tubes that were used to hold back soil and water as the caisson holes were excavated. These tubes were removed as concrete was poured, which resulted in concrete being pulled up with the tubes in some caisson holes, allowing voids to form which filled with soil or water. Over two-dozen of the caisson holes required corrective work, adding six months to the construction schedule and another $1 million to the budget. It is fortunate, though, that the problems were discovered and corrected. Considering what might have happened if the problems were not detected, the Engineering News-Record opined, “Cost in dollars or in lives from damage that might have befallen a completed 100-story John Hancock Center if its faulty caissons had settled years hence is just too horrible to dwell upon.” [Chicago Tribune, March 24, 1985]


43 posted on 12/17/2024 12:36:01 PM PST by DUMBGRUNT ( "The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message)
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To: DUMBGRUNT
End of the click-bait article:

"many newer buildings—like the Porsche Design Tower, which is just 10 years old—naturally sink into the soil years after completion due to their weight."

44 posted on 12/17/2024 12:51:50 PM PST by TangoLimaSierra (⭐⭐To the Left, The Truth is Right Wing Violence⭐⭐)
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To: dfwgator

Accept no substitute

Well, break time’s over!!


45 posted on 12/17/2024 12:52:24 PM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the Day's of Lot; They id Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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To: newfreep

so it will have lots of underground


46 posted on 12/17/2024 1:09:58 PM PST by butlerweave
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Miami Beach and much of Miami is built on filled in swampland. It settles, slowly, for years. Plus Miami is built on porous limestone bedrock which tends to dissolve over time as groundwater does its thing, which is why Florida has those sinkholes btw, and which also causes buildings to sink into them. The building was probably built fine, but on sinking sand.


47 posted on 12/17/2024 1:13:10 PM PST by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative.)
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To: TangoLimaSierra
Don't like it don't read it?

The first line of the article:
Researchers say it's happened at an ‘unexpected’ rate.

“—naturally sink into the soil years after completion due to their weight.”

Yes, and it is calculated and monitored over time.
But some are moving faster than anticipated.
Not a problem when even all around.
Unlike San Francisco’s Millennium Tower.

48 posted on 12/17/2024 1:18:47 PM PST by DUMBGRUNT ( "The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message)
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To: citizen

You really know how to hi-jack a thread! Well done lol

“””””””””

Well most of us are limited but there are some that are wiser.
But life goes on until we meet final resting place be it upward
or downward.


49 posted on 12/17/2024 1:29:39 PM PST by deport
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Well, Porsche’s tend to be marketed toward older gentlemen and to say it nicely there is shrinkage as they age. So maybe the tower’s just emulating its owners.


50 posted on 12/17/2024 1:35:32 PM PST by Lockbox (politicians, they all seemed like game show host to me.... Sting)
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To: freepersup

Prior to the Soviets successful launch of Sputnik, engineering in the US was an applied science and engineers were apprenticed to gain knowledge and skill. Mulholland was self-taught, but learning water runs downhill through canals is a far cry from designing a dam structure.

He should have trusted others to design and build the dam, but his ego got the better of him


51 posted on 12/17/2024 1:36:20 PM PST by shotgun
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To: DUMBGRUNT
Don't like it don't read it?

Great advice.
But hard to do when the payoff is at the end of the article. Or do you start at the bottom?

52 posted on 12/17/2024 1:41:18 PM PST by TangoLimaSierra (⭐⭐To the Left, The Truth is Right Wing Violence⭐⭐)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Here is the website for anyone interested in taking a look at the pizzazz.

https://pdtowermiami.com/


53 posted on 12/17/2024 1:44:44 PM PST by EVO X ( )
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Coastal areas usually do not have the bedrock of granite so close to the surface as Manhattan, New York City - one reason Manhattan Island hosts so well so many giant skyscrapers.


54 posted on 12/17/2024 1:59:36 PM PST by Wuli
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To: DUMBGRUNT

One only has to read John D McDonald’s novel “Condominium” to get a picture of the wisdom of erecting tall buildings on Florida’s coasts.


55 posted on 12/17/2024 2:05:07 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s ("If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there")
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To: DUMBGRUNT

“Vell, vaht is it sinking about?”


56 posted on 12/17/2024 2:07:40 PM PST by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smart-ass disorder. )
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To: DUMBGRUNT

<><><> The problems originated with the steel tubes that were used to hold back soil and water as the caisson holes were excavated. These tubes were removed as concrete was poured, which resulted in concrete being pulled up with the tubes in some caisson holes, allowing voids to form which filled with soil or water. <><><>

I worked on one of two crews installing 4,200 anchor bolts in caissons during the construction of a Mitsubishi automotive assembly plant, situated in the Bloomington - Normal area of Illinois. I’m familiar with the “steel tubes” referenced in the above excerpt. I believe the common vernacular used in the field is - caisson sleeves.

The main concern in the construction of the caissons, was soil compaction on the bottom of the caisson’s “foot”. Think of a belled shape, like an elephant’s foot.

The drilling rig used an auger bit to first establish a silo like hole in the ground, then switched bits to excavate out a bell shape cavity using a device that had triangular blades, which would extend outward from a circular housing, via rotational and centrifugal force, establishing the wider belled footprint.

An inspector would descend into the silo to test the floor soil’s compaction. Apparently, a known clay strata existed underground, which was undulating, so the drilling crew would be forced to drill down until they reached the sought after clay band. It was in this clay material, that the bell would be established.

The proposed one story building’s vertical steel columns were to be supported by these caissons. Any sidewall voids in the caissons outer concrete surfaces, due to the pulling of the sleeves, would be of some concern, but not anywhere as critical of an issue as in the construction of a 100 story building.

For this reason (comparison) I do not recall any subsequent inspections (sidewall) once the caisson floor test passed an acceptable compaction criteria.

I can only imagine the number of engineers (all) on the Hancock project that shat their pants once they discovered the anomalies in the caisson’s sidewalls.

I might (?) gather the gumption to look up the fix...


57 posted on 12/17/2024 2:10:16 PM PST by freepersup (“Those who conceal crimes are preparing to commit new ones.” ~Vuk Draskovic~)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

<><><> IIRC Mulholland was not an engineer and some grievous engineering errors had been made on that project. <><><>

Roger!

Mulholland was self taught.

The dam was attached to the earth, and on one side, that earth turned out to be just a giant boulder, sitting ON the bedrock, rather than being an extension of the bedrock.

The dam’s height was increased twice, creating a much greater surface area, and therefore increasing a (future) fatal pressure on the dam, which caused the giant boulder (the dam’s shoulder) to move enough to fracture the dam.

Bodies were washed downstream, with some reaching the Pacific Ocean.


58 posted on 12/17/2024 2:21:14 PM PST by freepersup (“Those who conceal crimes are preparing to commit new ones.” ~Vuk Draskovic~)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Probably just a little Porsche oversteer. Comes with the territory.


59 posted on 12/17/2024 2:40:27 PM PST by CommerceComet (Re-elect Donald Trump - AGAIN)
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To: Angelino97; dfwgator
OK you two:

"Let's see that handshake again.."

60 posted on 12/17/2024 2:59:53 PM PST by Henchster (Free Republic - the BEST site on the web!)
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