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Lasers, Microwaves, Missiles, Guns Not On The Table For Domestic Drone Defense
The War Zone ^ | October 31, 2024 | JOSEPH TREVITHICK, HOWARD ALT

Posted on 12/14/2024 6:23:46 AM PST by DoodleBob

“130(i)” here refers to that subsection of Title 10 of the U.S. Code (10 USC 130i), which covers current authorities for the “protection of certain facilities and assets from unmanned aircraft.”

Under 130i, the U.S. military has the authority to take “action” to defend against drones including with measures to “disrupt control of the unmanned aircraft system or unmanned aircraft, without prior consent, including by disabling the unmanned aircraft system or unmanned aircraft by intercepting, interfering, or causing interference with wire, oral, electronic, or radio communications used to control the unmanned aircraft system or unmanned aircraft” and the “use reasonable force to disable, damage, or destroy the unmanned aircraft system or unmanned aircraft.”

A full list of the kinds of “action” authorized under 10 USC 130i. Cornell Law School

At the same time, the statute as it currently exists stipulates that “the Secretary of Defense shall coordinate with the Secretary of Transportation and the Administrator of the Federal Aviation Administration [FAA] before issuing any guidance or otherwise implementing this section if such guidance or implementation might affect aviation safety, civilian aviation and aerospace operations, aircraft airworthiness, or the use of airspace.”

There are notable caveats about the “covered facility or asset[s]” the law applies to, as well. A specific list provided in the statute is focused largely on top-tier national security sites and assets, including those related to nuclear deterrence, protecting the President and Vice President, the nation’s air and missile defense networks, and space launch activities. The U.S. military does also reserve its inherent right to act outside of this authority in self-defense.

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To: null and void; aragorn; EnigmaticAnomaly; kalee; Kale; AZ .44 MAG; Baynative; bgill; bitt; ...

“it is curious that it was published on Halloween, way before the current saga.” !


21 posted on 12/14/2024 7:12:02 AM PST by bitt (<img src=' 'width=30%>)
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To: DoodleBob
I can't believe we don't have the means to scramble either jets, Cessnas or drones to at least take pictures and tail them some of them to their home base.
We have the tech to take them out but not the guts, it seems.

22 posted on 12/14/2024 7:14:02 AM PST by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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To: DoodleBob

“The U.S. military does also reserve its inherent right to act outside of this authority in self-defense.”

This U.S. citizen does also reserve his inherent right to act outside of this authority in self-defense.


23 posted on 12/14/2024 7:14:07 AM PST by Ignatz (The bees don't bother to tell the flies that honey tastes better than dung.)
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To: Farcesensitive
"The headline is a lie, it says right there that force may be used to destroy a drone."

Of course the headline is a lie, but the statute gives Team Biden cover for using option 1 thru 5 instead of just going to option 6 which is shoot them down.

24 posted on 12/14/2024 7:21:42 AM PST by buckalfa (They say nothing is impossible, yet I accomplish nothing every day.)
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To: DoodleBob

Drones also need a control signal. That can be found and interrupted.


25 posted on 12/14/2024 7:28:19 AM PST by lurk (u)
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To: buckalfa

1. Nets (to foul ptopellers)

2. Solid ice or carbon dioxide projectiles


26 posted on 12/14/2024 7:28:51 AM PST by The Antiyuppie (When small men cast long shadows, it is near the end of the day.)
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To: DoodleBob

If I see one, and it is unmarked, I will assume it is of an enemy origin and will immediately deploy Rule 308. I am not military and would not come under their restrictions.


27 posted on 12/14/2024 7:37:14 AM PST by bk1000 (Banned from Breitbart)
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To: DoodleBob

Why don’t we just activate our air defenses against these drones? Oh, silly me, we sent it all to Ukraine. Next time I’ll think before posting something stupid.


28 posted on 12/14/2024 7:41:54 AM PST by BobL
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To: AAABEST

No, you do not need to ID. Shoot one down and inspect the wreckage.

As to “pollution”, gimme a break. You’d rather they get crashed at the location THEY choose rather than YOUR choice? Shoot one down over water and send out the CGuard.


29 posted on 12/14/2024 7:56:10 AM PST by bobbo666
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To: AAABEST

Oh please. Unless there’s a weapons payload, shooting down one of these drones shouldn’t be any more hazardous than shooting down a large RC model plane. If you’re worried about lithium batteries, you shouldn’t be—the sidewalks are positively littered with e-bikes and scooters everywhere you go.


30 posted on 12/14/2024 8:17:51 AM PST by dinodino ( Cut it down anyway. )
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To: AAABEST

Some of them look like planes because of the lights.


31 posted on 12/14/2024 8:20:28 AM PST by anton
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To: cgbg; bobbo666
uhhh derp, herp, duuhhhh.... just shoot 'em down

Two points:

- morons and yay-hoos shoot at things without knowing what they are or identifying the threat.

- morons and yay-hoos run their heads re: stuff they know nothing about. In this case modern drones payloads, materials and weapons.

32 posted on 12/14/2024 8:26:21 AM PST by AAABEST (That time Washington DC became a corrupted, existential threat to us all...)
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To: AAABEST

You are speculating about payload.

The drunks will be doing something useful for once—replacing the words of “experts” with action.


33 posted on 12/14/2024 8:27:59 AM PST by cgbg (It is time to pull the Deep State out of the mass media--like ticks from a dog.)
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To: DoodleBob

So, during 9/11 the military and civil authorities were prepared to shoot down planes full of Americans but these drones warrant no response at all.


34 posted on 12/14/2024 8:28:22 AM PST by CodeToad (Rule #1: The elites want you dead.)
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To: dinodino
shooting down one of these drones shouldn’t be any more hazardous than shooting down a large RC model plane..

You have no idea of the nomenclature, but you're sure you want it shot down... because it can't be dangerous.

Sit in the corner with the other dunces.

35 posted on 12/14/2024 8:32:34 AM PST by AAABEST (That time Washington DC became a corrupted, existential threat to us all...)
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To: AAABEST
Dealing with a downed drone - even in remote areas - is problematic.

Have you somehow missed the evolution in warfare in the ongoing DS battlespace? You, on display:

  1. Naivete,
  2. Gaslit,
  3. Utter ignorance.
Choose. You should hope to be #3, as that requires a merely a choice to change.

MUCH more "problematic" is what's coming over the horizon since our government has demonstrated both an unwillingness and inability to control our airspace even over the most sensitive facilities...

...and today I'm merely concerned with one location in Landover, Md....

36 posted on 12/14/2024 8:38:23 AM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: cgbg
The drunks will be doing something useful for once—replacing the words of “experts” with action.

If it's a "real" drone, shooter would be dead. If it's not he'd be arrested

Even if drunks down it, maybe you can explain to the forum what happens when - I dunno - hellfires, microwave equipment and radioactive/toxic materials start burning.

37 posted on 12/14/2024 8:42:45 AM PST by AAABEST (That time Washington DC became a corrupted, existential threat to us all...)
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To: AAABEST

You have wild speculation here—zero basis for any of it.

Lets get some shot down and get some actual facts.


38 posted on 12/14/2024 8:44:06 AM PST by cgbg (It is time to pull the Deep State out of the mass media--like ticks from a dog.)
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To: cgbg

lol - now I’m convinced.

Sorry I doubted you... seriously.


39 posted on 12/14/2024 9:06:29 AM PST by AAABEST (That time Washington DC became a corrupted, existential threat to us all...)
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To: AAABEST

Produce some evidence for any of your payload claims.

I am waiting....


40 posted on 12/14/2024 9:10:16 AM PST by cgbg (It is time to pull the Deep State out of the mass media--like ticks from a dog.)
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