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DOGE should streamline the military academies to save money
American Thinker ^

Posted on 12/10/2024 7:46:03 AM PST by DIRTYSECRET

Service academies arose back when we believed engineers in the military that our armed forces demand. Very few service grads receive engineering degrees. They now receive degrees in less mission-essential fields like political science and economics, even as we need engineers more than ever.

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To: twister881

“The number of “bull” majors is relatively small and has been shrinking for years.”

Maybe you should tuck in that bias and get some facts.

United States Naval Academy Majors - Ten Most Popular Majors for 2023 Graduates
Engineering, General 35%
Social Sciences, General 25%
Physical Sciences, General 12%
English Language and Literature, General 7%
Computer and Information Sciences, General 5%
Military Science, Leadership and Operational Art, Other 5%
History, General 4%
Foreign Languages and Literatures, General 3%
Biological and Physical Sciences 2%
Mathematics, General 2%


21 posted on 12/10/2024 9:02:18 AM PST by CodeToad (Rule #1: The elites want you dead.)
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To: Tammy8

There’s a lot of government land no one wants to buy unless they are exempted by the hazardous cleanup costs.


22 posted on 12/10/2024 9:04:49 AM PST by T.B. Yoits
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To: Tammy8

“The problem is when anyone mentions the possibility of selling government land most people think that means Yellowstone or the Grand Canyon. They don’t think random vacant land with old buildings or just random land scattered all over.”

Most people don’t know the vast amount of “federal land” (most of it NOT national parks and such, the federal government holds in the western states:

https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/federal-land-by-state

And it is folks in the eastern states that will object the most to selling “national” lands, and of course they will, because unlike western states they hold 90%+ of THEIR lands.


23 posted on 12/10/2024 9:11:28 AM PST by Wuli
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To: ByteMercenary

Air support missions can’t be made without gaining air supremacy. The Soviets found this out against Germany, and we did, too by trying to push just bombers over their territory.

You have to sweep the skies of enemy fighters before you can use aircraft as flying artillery. Otherwise your flying tanks all auger in.


24 posted on 12/10/2024 9:17:11 AM PST by Alas Babylon! (Repeal the Patriot Act; Abolish the DHS; reform FBI top to bottom!)
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To: CodeToad

If your numbers are current & accurate, 61% engineering, science, mathematics, a clear majority. Work on your addition skills.
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25 posted on 12/10/2024 9:17:59 AM PST by twister881
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To: CodeToad

“Experience,” that’s it? No, hard numbers needed such as airmanship evaluations, awards, commendations, not a subjective opinion.
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26 posted on 12/10/2024 9:21:37 AM PST by twister881
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To: twister881

Weirdos like you will accept anything they agree with but demand PhD level studies for things they do not. We call such people ‘liberals’. You are making my case for closing academies. They have become nothing but liberal yuppyvilles full of some of the most retarded liberals. Literally, a D- is a graduating grade at the academies.


27 posted on 12/10/2024 9:24:25 AM PST by CodeToad (Rule #1: The elites want you dead.)
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To: twister881

You said, “The number of “bull” majors is relatively small and has been shrinking for years.”

So, with 39% being bulls*** degrees, you should work on your reading comprehension of materials that you write.

Wow, you are dumb.


28 posted on 12/10/2024 9:26:07 AM PST by CodeToad (Rule #1: The elites want you dead.)
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To: T-Bird45

Hey, I was a 90 day wonder :(


29 posted on 12/10/2024 9:26:58 AM PST by PatriotCJC (Keep your powder dry!)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

What is that first sentence trying to say?


30 posted on 12/10/2024 9:27:18 AM PST by MortMan (Charter member of AAAAA - American Association Against Alliteration Abuse)
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To: DIRTYSECRET
There are a significant number of flag officers that have come from ROTC programs for a very long time. How about aligning the military academies to do what they once did?

It seems like there are plenty of ways to save gooberment money without tearing down Icons which is the equivalent of the left's tearing down statues and renaming military bases.

31 posted on 12/10/2024 10:40:11 AM PST by Sequoyah101 (Donald John Trump. First man to be Elected to the Presidency THREE times since FDR.)
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To: Alas Babylon!
1. Roll the US Marine Corps into the US Army. All ground forces should be in the US Army.

2. All airplanes should be in the USAF.

3. All ships should be in the US Navy.


1. The Marines are already in the Navy. They literally are just Navy infantry. They've taken on too much mission creep and need to get back to their sole purpose - establishing a beachhead for the Army to come through. Marines are amphibians, they go in the water, not just another ground force.

2. You actually think the Air Force should be operating off naval vehicles? Do you not realize how much MORE that would cost us in "substandard living quarters" pay for all the zoomies? If anything, push Air Force up and out and fold everything under 50 kft back into the Army Air Corps.

3. Coast Guard has a different mission set than the Navy (for the most part), but is under the Navy already, when deployed. If you're talking about the Army's ships, it makes sense to maintain more of the logistical support within the supported department.
32 posted on 12/10/2024 11:39:04 AM PST by Svartalfiar (-)
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To: Svartalfiar

The marines are amphibious. Sh what were they doing in Beruit besides getting themselves blown up?

Air Force-all the planes? I dunno. When the A-10 Warthog was on the chopping block it was suggested the Marines could take over. During the Mayaguez incident the marines had to use AF helicopters. The captain ordered the AF pilot where too land and the pilot-a buck sergeant-told him to go f himself.


33 posted on 12/10/2024 12:53:40 PM PST by DIRTYSECRET
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To: DIRTYSECRET

I disagree with consolidating them all into one. I think they should probably be downsized as far as not continuing to add or shore up outmoded buildings on campuses, and I like the idea of sending cadets to other academies for units of study rather than overduplication at each academy. I agree with refocusing on engineering, and absolutely deplore women in combat and officer ranks over men. Just. No.

I am not in favor of fewer locations. Each of the academies needs to have some particular areas of expertise and accompanying R&D at their respective locations.

But because the nature of war has changed, we need smaller, yet many installations, in many locations.


34 posted on 12/10/2024 1:41:09 PM PST by Albion Wilde (“Did you ever meet a woke person that’s happy? There’s no such thing.” —Donald J. Trump)
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To: Svartalfiar

LOL!

Like I said, these things would never happen because they’d pi$$ off too many people.

Wanna save money, or go with tradition?

All arguments should be on the table. ALL, not just the ones we don’t like. Different branches would fight each other to the death rather then do what it takes to save the tax burden on the American people’s backs.

As a person who lived his life in uniform, I’m going to educate you. The US military has separate branches, but they fight under ONE commander as a team. You mention how the Coast Guard comes under the Navy when we’re at war, but that’s how ALL the services fight in an actual war. One boss, like when General Swarzkopf, US Army, was in charge of Desert Shield/Storm. General Horner, the Air Boss I worked for, was subordinate to Gen Swarzkopf, and did what he was told to do. The Marine General worked for Gen S, not for the Commandant. That also applied to the Navy commander in the Gulf. I can’t speak with personal knowledge for Iraq or Afghanistan, as I retired before 9/11, but it was the same.

But true, I submitted this, so I’ll take the flack.


35 posted on 12/10/2024 2:07:42 PM PST by Alas Babylon! (`)
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To: Alas Babylon!

You funny.


36 posted on 12/10/2024 2:58:17 PM PST by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

“pilot-a buck sergeant”

Nope. Air Force did not use enlisted pilots.


37 posted on 12/11/2024 5:10:12 AM PST by CodeToad (Rule #1: The elites want you dead.)
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