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To: RandFan

This is probably what our real motivation in Ukraine is.

Weaken Russia on the world stage where we have been going after them for years.

Iraq, Syria, Libya, Venezuela are all Russian aligned or outright allies as with Syria. All are oil producers.

As we deplete the Russians and sponge up their resources in Ukraine, going after their frontier states becomes easier. Meanwhile we spew crap about how Russia wants to rebuild the Soviet empire or keep invading if we don’t stop them in Ukraine, where in all reality we caused that war.

Win-win. Even if Russia had not reacted, we still would have won, ie. Ukraine is in NATO.

No doubt that the argument of Ukraine giving us a huge bang for the buck is true. But the idea that Ukraine is a winner in all of this, or that it’s moral (our Democracy, human rights, sovereignty talk) is all trash.

This is probably what Ukraine was all about all along.


14 posted on 12/07/2024 9:00:34 AM PST by Red6
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15 posted on 12/07/2024 9:03:27 AM PST by deport
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@realDonaldTrump

Opposition fighters in Syria, in an unprecedented move, have totally taken over numerous cities, in a highly coordinated offensive, and are now on the outskirts of Damascus, obviously preparing to make a very big move toward taking out Assad. Russia, because they are so tied up in Ukraine, and with the loss there of over 600,000 soldiers, seems incapable of stopping this literal march through Syria, a country they have protected for years. This is where former President Obama refused to honor his commitment of protecting the RED LINE IN THE SAND, and all hell broke out, with Russia stepping in. But now they are, like possibly Assad himself, being forced out, and it may actually be the best thing that can happen to them. There was never much of a benefit in Syria for Russia, other than to make Obama look really stupid. In any event, Syria is a mess, but is not our friend, & THE UNITED STATES SHOULD HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. THIS IS NOT OUR FIGHT. LET IT PLAY OUT. DO NOT GET INVOLVED!


16 posted on 12/07/2024 9:09:30 AM PST by RandFan
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