Why experts now believe Ozempic could stop you getting HEART ATTACKS and STROKES - though they warn you must be aware of these risks

Daily Mail ^ | November 24, 2024 | BARNEY CALMAN

[srmanuel]

The anxiety was by far the hardest part to deal with for me, the whole heart surgery ordeal started with a routine visit to my primary care physician, 3 months later and a battery of tests and I’m having open heart surgery

I told my wife until you’ve been thru it it’s hard to say how you will react, all I can tell is the alternative is a lot worse and surgeons are amazing, when you are in recovery get most out of cardiac rehab you won’t regret it

[albie]

May cause (real fast) “oily discharge, bloating, headaches, nausea, hair loss, cavities, foot odor, swelling, gout and weight gain” See your Doctor and see if ozempic is right for you!

[Tuxedo]

I started Mounjaro a little over a year ago and am now at 10mg shots. Doc just upped me to 12.5mg which I will start when I am done with my 10mg pens. So, A1C was 9.3, now 5.8. Lost about 40 pounds. Have plateaued at 242-245 pounds and been that way about 6 months now. Hoping the 12.5mg will kickstart weight loss. No GI effects at all except some bloat if I eat too much. Some exhaustion on Day 3 - 4, but nothing bad. Diet has not changed much, except much more Thai food since my wife moved here in August (veggies and fruits, rice and noodles). My cholesterol has never been bad and never smoked and rarely drink alcohol. Just feel better all around. Oh, and I am 59.

[mewzilla]

You mean like ozempic diarreah...?

A few very well known celebrities have found out about that one the hard way.

[blitz128]

Big pharmas next gold mine.

[Fresh Wind]

The mention of Ozempic brings to mind an herbal supplement that has become popular recently, specifically berberine, that has been billed by some as a “natural Ozempic”.

I started taking it recently for it’s effect on blood glucose, and have found significant improvements. I am seeing readings go from borderline pre-diabetic to well into what is considered the normal range. I am marginally overweight, but far from obese.

The mechanism of its action is said to be different than that of Ozempic, so that is a caveat.

Also, clinical studies of berberine are limited since drug companies are notoriously uninterested in unprofitable natural treatments.

I understand there are commercially available berberine supplements that contain less (or even much less) than the advertised amount of the active ingredient, so that’s a potential issue.

Any comments? Anyone else using this? Results?

[mairdie]

Just responding to a recommendation of magnesium being good for us. A key to ALL aspects of health and life is moderation in all things, as you say. I’m personally not into supplements though I do take a few, as doctor recommends. What I do recommend is full transparency on all aspects of what you do between yourself and your doctor, not just once but pretty continuously. This not only reminds your doctor, but lets them know if there’s anything potentially building up to recheck.

[mairdie]

By all means pass. I’m not recommending it for anyone. I’m just noticing that all anyone talks about is the negative aspects of these drugs and the virtue of not using them. My doctor pushed me for 6 months to take this and I was scared of trying them exactly because of a side effect, so when I did finally try it, under VERY close supervision, I was shocked that it had NONE of the side effects on ME that I was continuously reading about. There are two sides to everything and the positive should never be completely ignored for the negative. Balance in everything.

[TheThirdRuffian]

I have similar issues, but height and a mesomorph.

I’m either 6’10” or 6’11 depending on what time of day I get measured. I am no bean pole, but built like my peasant ancestors. Hit 300 lbs at 14% body fat, which, for reference, is visible ab muscles and no love handles on me. Can see veins in my arms and shoulders. I try to stay below 300, but that is downright skinny on me.

Work out a lot. Lots of walking, weights, and country dancing. Plus I’m a rancher.

My doctor repeatedly warns me that dudes my size just die. The human heart is made for people who are below 6 feet, on matter how you are born. Not a lot of difference between me and a fat slob, according to how my heart sees it.

I have young children so I do everything I can to take care of my heart. May do this.

[maddog55]

I’m all about eating right, exercising and everything else in moderation. I take no prescription meds at all and neither does the wife.

I don’t want to live as long as possible I want live healthy as long as possible... actually I never thought I’d make it to 40 so it’s been a freebie for the last 30 years.

[mairdie]

Plateaus are the most frustrating thing. I DID take advantage of the appetite suppression to switch to the diet I keep to when I’m suffering dieting. I’m careful to have well balanced foods through the day. The biggest difference for me is that I have NO obsessions about food all day. On a normal diet, I’d stand in the donut aisle at the grocery and inhale deeply, remembering the joy of eating anything and that was enough to hold me over till I could eat something. Now the bags of snacks are aging and I don’t even think about opening them. At my salad meal there’s just nothing else I want.

[mairdie]

Clapping for both of you. Again, your ancestors should be preening for passing on such good genes, as well as you both for the level of self control you’ve brought to caring for your health. May that good health be with both of you for decades to come.

[trebb]

I love it when they say something akin to, “We haven’t a clue as to why it seems to do what it seems to do”.
Makes me really crave some /sarc

[1Old Pro]

Patients taking GLP-1 injections – regardless of whether they even lose weight – are significantly less likely to suffer all manner of dangerous heart problems.

Hopefully it's healthy, millions of women are using it.

[factmart]

Have lost 65 pounds and feel great at 72 years old, take no prescription drugs on the Lion’s diet and carnivore. Check out Dr Ken Berry on YouTube.
https://www.youtube.com/live/CZ-qwRGNgjo?si=pS7q6TtVVEoChoAu

[mairdie]

So glad you’re feeling healthy and doing well. Hope it continues for decades so well.

[OldGoatCPO]

I think everything we ingest has to be managed. Growing up we ate more fresh foods and meats than processed foods. Grandparents were farmers. Today, what we ate normally back in the 60s and 70s costs more because it is “healthy” or “organic.” I know what we ate back then was organic, as a teenager I had to run the manure spreader. 😀 Too much of what we eat is processed food and bad for us. Why do poor communities have problems with diabetes, renal failure, over weight and heart disease. Look at what they have in their cart at a grocery store. Soda, chips and ice cream were treats, now they are regular parts of meals.

After decades of eating and drinking processed foods people run from one quick fix to another. Some people have no alternative because of health issues from birth or genetic, but I am concerned about people grasping the newest and greatest weight loss drug. Even if it works, it is still a drug and long term effects are unknown in many cases. Same applies to all the “natural substances” people glom on to. If the food you eat is not processed food, you should be getting what you are looking for in your regular meals. Too much of anything can be harmful.

[ConservativeMind]

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[Old Yeller]

Next week, the “experts” will claim something different.

[null and void]

Aw, c’mon, steve, you haven’t lived until your pancreas explodes.

There’s something very special about watching the paramedics work on you from somewhere near the ceiling...