Posted on 11/24/2024 9:23:04 PM PST by mairdie
Ping Conservative_Mind. Very interesting findings.
Hmmm. Isn’t Ozempic (tm) a drug licensed to control DIABETES that may have shown some indications it can be used for weight loss under certain conditions? Conditions the current advertisements gloss over?
Interesting...
Who makes this stuff so I can buy their stock?
There has to be something else wrong with it because it works too well to reduce A1C, the real purpose for it.
I’m on Rybelsus pills for diabetes because I’ve always refused insulin injections. Didn’t even KNOW it did weight loss until I mentioned to my doctor that I was losing weight and got laughed at. It’s the closest thing to a wonder drug I’ve ever taken. No side effects except positive ones.
All GI problems of decades gone. Exhaustion gone. A1C went from 9.9 to 7.1 in 1-1/2 months and to 5.5 3-1/2 months later. Other tests all showing normal. Weight loss 30 lbs. You just plain don’t want to eat. You get full at less than half a dish you could eat fully before and you don’t think about food during the day rather than obsessing over it.
Only problem is the cost and the fact that it changes your cells so that you gain back 30-40 percent of your lost weight if you stop taking it, so it’s a lifetime medicine.
I’ll be wearing a heart monitor for 30 days, so I’ll know a lot more about it after that.
What is the cost financially, physically and mentally?
Adding magnesium for the heart in your diet goes a long ways too.
For me, for Rybelsus, on our medical plan, $7.50 per pill. Once per day. Strange directions. You take one pill with a couple sips of water only when you wake up and then NOTHING for half an hour to an hour after. THEN you can take your daily pills and food and liquid. One pill per day.
There are 3 stages for Rybelsus. You test your body with it at 3.5mg. For me, it took a couple weeks before any changes. Then, pretty suddenly, my appetite disappeared and I started losing weight continuously. Felt fine. No problems. Then felt better and better as I stayed on it. After a number of weeks, you plateau. Nothing else changes except you stop losing weight.
Then they move you to 7mg. Same identical thing happens. After a couple weeks you get your 2nd weight loss and eventual plateau.
Last stage is 14mg. Each time you’re checking for side effects. For me, never any. Same delayed weight loss and I haven’t reached the plateau yet.
Magnesium Rich Foods - lots of yummy stuff there
Cashews
Spinach
Almonds
Black beans
Pumpkin seed
Avocado
Nuts
Peanut butter
Bananas
Legume
Whole grain
Brown rice
Dark chocolate
Potatoes
Tofu
Leafy greens
Milk
Chia seeds
Edamame
Peanuts
Soy milk
Sunflower seed
Yogurt
Brazil nuts
With 23 out of 1,000 semiglutide patients experiencing possible life-threatening pancreatitis, there’s no way in hell I’d take one of these.
Possibly 23 out of 100,000 would be an acceptable rate.
And plenty of other common adverse effects.
I’m more a supplement person — take magnesium oxide and magnesium glycinate, the latter being much better absorbed.
I’m not going to tell anyone to take or not take the drugs in question, I will say this be aware of who is paying for and producing the reports of fantastic new uses for these drugs and what the ultimate goal is of these studies
IMO, if you traced the funding of these studies you would find it’s the pharmaceutical companies manufacturing these drugs with the ultimate goal to expand their use by getting Medicare and other health insurance companies to pay for the drugs by requiring coverage
Given how the USA has an major epidemic of obesity, diabetes and heart disease what better way to help resolve these problems than requiring third party payment instead of lifestyle changes
It’s the skeptic in me that thinks any deal to good to be true probably is
I take the OZ, good for A1C & weight mgmt.
I’ve had adverse effects from other medicines that I stopped instantly. I’m only grateful that whatever this stuff is doing to my innards, it seems to be reversing problems I’ve had for decades in the exact opposite to what I read about happening to people taking shots instead of pills. But my internists seem really great at doing constant checking and testing, so I’m hoping they’d see a problem coming from far away. We always start new meds at the beginning of the week so the doctors are around to call for potential problems.
I can only be grateful that I’m NOT getting adverse effects. I’ve never won a lottery, but I think I did this time. I’m fairly paranoid and just lucked out.
Anyone who would take drugs to heal heart problems are ignorant.
Solve the real problem. What you eat.
Be healed, go on the Lion’s Diet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ka9WBEijhk&t=0s
I agree with you completely. Every person reacts to every drug differently and you can’t say that because it works for me it’s going to work for you. One of the reasons I wrote how it did work for me is that I dislike the other side of the discussion being lopsided. When everyone talks about the negative side-effects, someone has to say when the stuff DOES work. Two sides to everything and I had been seeing conversations that felt totally off-balance.
I don’t like taking meds. Never have. Drag my tail and avoid whatever I can. But I’ve hit 80 years old this year and don’t have a lot of options. Took 6 months before I agreed to let them experiment with the Rybelsus on me. Just because it worked doesn’t mean I won’t fight the next pill they try to give me just as hard.
Diabetes runs in our family. Father died at 49 from it. Brother is late 80’s and has it bad. Since I’ve always refused insulin, it’s pretty amazing to find something that seems to be protecting me at my age.
Good to hear that. I don’t think your very positive experience would influence my decision whether to take it though.
Interesting. Have you tried it and does it make you feel healthier, if you did?
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