Posted on 10/30/2024 4:07:42 AM PDT by MtnClimber
First fix the DEI or Boeing will DIE.
Musk
It would take a complete overhaul....ie firing a lot of the existing management and replacing them with good managers, getting rid of all the wokism and bringing back actual engineering and technical skills, etc. AND it would take doing it soon because they’ve got competitors who are eating their lunch. If the rot continues much longer it will do serious long term damage to the company financially, in market share, reputationally, etc etc.
I don’t think they’re capable of doing it.
Exactly. What made Boeing work doesn’t exist anymore. It’s how we got through the Great Depression in the 30’s. Look at the photos from that time period- they were a hearty stock. So many people back then were self-reliant farmers. That doesn’t exist anymore.
I’ll try. I’ll need the larger office and a private bathroom. I will also need an alphabetical accordion file. Yeah, that Boeing. I’ll get them straightened out.
Accurate assessment.
[pushing back the day it can resume production of most aircraft]
Hey, if it’s any of the 737 MAX series with the unbalanced Center of Gravity, that’s a GOOD thing
It was the Machinists Union that drove the final nail in the coffin of Eastern Airlines. Whoever assumes the top spot at Boeing will need to big a large meataxe.
Bankruptcy and a complete rebuild is obviously necessary. One of Boeings biggest problems is TOO MUCH GOVERNMENT. Too many regulations, too many ridiculous prerequisites for government contracts, etc.
Elon Musk
my experience with it that their space operations are hopelessly enmired in NASA CYA paperwork and needless oversight. They’d do better out of that until NASA goes by the wayside, IMO.
That will most likely require new ownership (i.e., an investor group that can force changes as opposed to a board of directors elected by public stockholders) and a new CEO (selected by that investor group) who will know what needs to be done and has the cojones to do it.
During the Future Combat System program, I spent a couple of weeks embedded at Boeing in Seattle. I could write a whole article on the things I saw that were systemic problems with the company. Skipping over that as even a short list is too long for a post, the solution would be to break Boeing apart, free it from the union and move the various parts to new locations. This would create a clean break with the systemic problems. Fixing Boeing in its current form would be like putting Band-Aids on a damn breach.
The root cause of Boeing’s current problems can be traced directly to the McDonnell Douglas merger.
Boeing took over MD, but MD’s rotten business culture took over which infected and killed Boeing.
as a former DoDQA guy, oi concur.
Old Engineering Proverb…”Sometimes the only real fix to a bad design is a decent burial.”
Will they ever return to the quality management that produced the B52, 707 or 747? I suspect in that era it was not just management, but everyone from the CEO down to the guy that swept the floors. Their goal was quality and that’s what they gave. Typical Americanism of the era.
Today? Typical leftism that degrades anything and everything.
>One of Boeings biggest problems is TOO MUCH GOVERNMENT. Too many regulations, too many ridiculous prerequisites for government contracts, etc.
Some of Musk’s recent comments on government regulation support you. After getting rid of DIE, getting rid of a lot of useless regulations would be critical.
Boeing needs a time-out to gut the management team and rebuild but companies can't do that, they will be left in the dust and never catch up again. Sometimes the employees can carry a company through a crisis such as Boeing's but they are unwilling to do that.
Boeing's failure began with the move of HQ to Chicago in 1997.
"Boeing's relocation to Chicago was predicated on the professed need to buffer top management from the influence and distractions of its production plants, whose numbers were growing as the company diversified and absorbed a 1997 merger with defense contractor McDonnell Douglas."
Now they have once more moved, this time to Arlington, Virginia. Odd, I never knew that your primary business of manufacturing airplanes in a factory was a distraction. I guess that is why I am not nor ever will be a ceo. At least Ortberg decided to locate in Seattle. Ortberg is probably in over his head, he has never managed a company as big as Boeing and most of what he did in Collins was merge and sell out. Maybe that is what Boeing wants to do?
Amazing how fast they went from: "If it isn't Boeing I'm not going." to what it isn't today. I am told by pilots that Airbus makes a better product. What a shame.
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