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To: sit-rep
the same thing that happens to those who die and DO believe... youre dead...

It sure seems that way...


 


1 Thessalonians 4:13
Brothers and sisters, we do not want you to be uninformed about those who sleep in death, so that you do not grieve like the rest of mankind, who have no hope.
 
 
 
Daniel 12:2
Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake: some to everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting contempt.
 
 
 
1 Corinthians 15:51-52
Listen, I tell you a mystery:
We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed—in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet.
For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed.
 

 


Looks like Scripture disagrees with the Catholic claim that believers are in heaven RIGHT NOW; doesn't it!


1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 King James Version (KJV)

16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

 


 

Dead in Christ?

I thought Rome says the 'in Christ' folks are already in Heaven?

Then what's this RAISING that is being bandied about here?

174 posted on 10/17/2024 1:33:50 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Dead in Christ? I thought Rome says the 'in Christ' folks are already in Heaven? Then what's this RAISING that is being bandied about here?

Regardless of Rome says, and most therein are dead outside of Christ, the context is that of physical resurrection, that of the bodies whose spirit is on Heaven. Which will include Moses and Elijah, as well as souls in Heaven who ask the Lord, "with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?" (Revelation 6:10) All of whom are definitely not sleeping unconsciously. To God be the glory.

178 posted on 10/17/2024 7:51:58 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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