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Hurricane Helene Deaths Will Continue for Years, Study Suggests
NY Times ^ | October 2, 2024 | Lydia DePillis

Posted on 10/02/2024 9:46:56 AM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege

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To: CondoleezzaProtege

This “study” is a waste of money and bald faced horseshit. Nothing more than a jobs program for unproductive egg heads.


21 posted on 10/02/2024 11:32:48 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (More important than why there was nobody protecting the AGR roof, how did Crooks know that?)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

Yes, it is terrible. We left our home to escape a fire with just what we could carry in two vehicles. Leaving all the possessions you have worked for and not expecting to see them again is a whack. The house was spared. The second one in the second fire ten years later, the home place, was not spared. We lost the lifetime collection of a family in that one. We all survived, we all recovered but it was like a death in the family. None of it will likely lead to a shortening of my life though. What you can’t cope with you must endure.


22 posted on 10/02/2024 11:38:49 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (More important than why there was nobody protecting the AGR roof, how did Crooks know that?)
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To: Sacajaweau
So many of these towns were in valleys...

That's what I mean, excessive rain in valleys like that are catastrophic.

23 posted on 10/02/2024 11:51:15 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

That’s terrible. What state were you in?


24 posted on 10/02/2024 11:54:56 AM PDT by subterfuge (I'm a pure-blood!)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Insight on how to pray 🙏


25 posted on 10/02/2024 11:56:54 AM PDT by The Truth Will Make You Free ( )
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To: 1Old Pro

Nobody plans for 20 to 30 inches of rain in a day so. My mostly flat midwestern town isn’t likely to handle 10 inches of rain during a day or so rain event.


26 posted on 10/02/2024 12:09:39 PM PDT by EVO X ( )
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To: Sequoyah101

I also lost a couple of great old Fender amplifiers that were stored in a barn on my brother’s property up in Ukiah during the fires of 2017-2018.

The one thing I will say about having your goods destroyed by fire is that the fire makes all kinds of decisions for you as to what you should keep and what you cannot. We were pretty lucky in that FEMA demolished the barn and hauled away all of its contents which were fairly extensive. That would have been a grisly multi-week task.


27 posted on 10/02/2024 12:09:55 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (The Democrat breadlines will be gluten-free. )
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To: subterfuge

Laguna beach, California, 1995. My store was located near the outlet of a Long Valley that filled up with water and in 15 minutes we had two feet of water in the building.


28 posted on 10/02/2024 12:12:39 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (The Democrat breadlines will be gluten-free. )
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To: EVO X
Nobody plans for 20 to 30 inches of rain in a day so.

Exactly why they need an evacuation plan that can be executed in 24 hours when it becomes probable that they will get excessive rain.

29 posted on 10/02/2024 12:13:40 PM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: 1Old Pro
Exactly why they need an evacuation plan that can be executed in 24 hours when it becomes probable that they will get excessive rain.

Looks good on paper, but that is not how it works. My area had a torrential rainfall a couple of years ago. 20 miles north of my location received 10 inches of rainfall during a 24 hour period. The entire town was mostly flooded. The rain event was a nothing burger where I live. There are tornado warning sirens but no flood sirens that I am aware of.

30 posted on 10/02/2024 12:31:47 PM PDT by EVO X ( )
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To: EVO X
There are tornado warning sirens but no flood sirens that I am aware of.

That's where the weatherman comes in. Heavy rain was predicted (for days) for interior areas near and around NC and TN. If you don't realize you are in a potential dangerous valley area, you should ask. These events happen regularly in the West in valley stream areas, they flood and people die.

31 posted on 10/02/2024 12:35:16 PM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: 1Old Pro

I doubt insurance modeling factors in 20 to 30 inches of rainfall in a day, let alone 10 inches for inland rainfall. Telling everyone in west Tennessee and and eastern Carolinas to evacuate isn’t practical and isn’t likely to happen,


32 posted on 10/02/2024 12:56:20 PM PDT by EVO X ( )
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Telling everyone in west Tennessee and and eastern Carolinas to evacuate isn’t practical and isn’t likely to happen,

Well, getting to a safe higher ground location is a personal decision I guess.

33 posted on 10/02/2024 12:58:14 PM PDT by 1Old Pro
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Two days before the storm deluged Appalachian hillsides, dire forecasts warned it could bring “life-threatening” floods to the mountains around Asheville after making landfall in Florida. In hindsight, one local emergency manager called the predictions “spot on, terrifyingly so.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2024/09/30/helene-north-carolina-evacuation-flooding/ In a special alert Wednesday night, the National Weather Service told residents in the region to “prepare for catastrophic, life-threatening flooding.” That same day, the governor and some local governments issued states of emergency; officials started to warn residents to prepare to leave, especially those living along flood-prone streams and rivers.

The next morning, still a day before the worst of the storm, officials in neighboring Buncombe County — home to Asheville — told residents that some areas were already starting to flood and urged them to take action. “Our hope is you will take action now to prepare yourselves and your loved ones,” county manager Avril Pinder said in a news conference. The Weather Service’s warnings of “catastrophic” flooding should be heeded, Pinder said.

6:15 a.m. Friday, when the county sent its first warning via wireless emergency alerts to cellphones: “High water can cause loss of life and property. MOVE to high ground, AWAY from water, do not delay.”

34 posted on 10/02/2024 1:04:58 PM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: 1Old Pro
Well, getting to a safe higher ground location is a personal decision I guess.

Ditto that. That said, nobody plans for 20 to 30 inches of rain in a day...

35 posted on 10/02/2024 1:13:53 PM PDT by EVO X ( )
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To: 1Old Pro

The damage is crushing. The death count...unimaginable.


36 posted on 10/02/2024 2:37:24 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (mY)
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To: 1Old Pro
When I was a kid, we had an armory next...we had air raids in those days....the 50s...

When I lived in Williamsburg, they had a siren that went off when there was a tornado/Hurrican watch.

I think a local siren would be a great, inexpensive idea for all these little towns and maybe many others.

37 posted on 10/02/2024 2:49:25 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (mY)
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To: 1Old Pro

Pretty much all of us do. If it’s not hurricanes or floods, it’s tornadoes or earthquakes or mudslides or volcanoes.


38 posted on 10/02/2024 3:01:43 PM PDT by x
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To: scrabblehack

then new Orléans is a great place to house democrats


39 posted on 10/03/2024 8:18:28 AM PDT by bdfromlv (Leavenworth hard time)
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