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Dockworkers go on strike at East and Gulf Coast ports
Fox Business ^ | Eric Revell

Posted on 10/01/2024 6:29:47 AM PDT by hillarys cankles

Unionized dockworkers at 36 East and Gulf Coast ports went on strike early Tuesday amid an impasse in negotiations over a new contract with a group representing port employers

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: commerce; dockstrike; freight; longshoremen; portstrike; strike; supply; union; unionized; unions
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To: hillarys cankles

This is the long run view of things and that’s very unusual during a strike. Look at what happened in the auto and steel industries when labor costs went off the rails. The long run impact is the substitution of capital for labor. Look what happened to the demand for welders in the auto industry over time. A 50% increase in labor costs is going to trigger an avalanche of capital investment aimed at using less labor. I guess the union feels the short run gains in wages is worth having a smaller union in the future.


21 posted on 10/01/2024 7:18:31 AM PDT by econjack
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To: xoxox

East coast ports?
Not much.
The ports themselves are mostly locally owned. The LEASES, of the terminals are mainly foreign owned and controlled.
And they don’t give one rats ass about any American. They want money.

But, this union president is a sob. Should have postponed this strike for at least a month.

The only thing that is concerning is the pharmaceuticals now sitting on those docks. The vast majority of the pharmaceuticals are brought in from foriegn manufacturers through the ports.


22 posted on 10/01/2024 7:18:44 AM PDT by crz
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To: econjack

This is what the Daily Mail reports as far as dockworkers salaries:

“The International Longshoremen’s Association is demanding a pay rise that works out at about 77 percent over six years. For union members on a typical rate, their wage would go from $81,120 to around $143,520.”


23 posted on 10/01/2024 7:22:08 AM PDT by Bon of Babble (You Say You Want a Revolution?)
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To: crz

ran it through chatgpt.

arabs (dp world)
brit colossus tied up with Blackstone, et all.
Hutchison

Here’s a brief overview of the ownership of some of the key ports that have been in the news recently:

Los Angeles and Long Beach (USA):

Port of Los Angeles: Owned and operated by the City of Los Angeles.
Port of Long Beach: Owned and operated by the City of Long Beach.
Felixstowe (UK):

Owned by Felixstowe Dock and Railway Company, which is a subsidiary of Hutchison Ports, a Hong Kong-based company.
Liverpool (UK):

Owned by Port of Liverpool, which is operated by Peel Ports Group, a UK-based company.
Marseille (France):

Owned by Grand Port Maritime de Marseille, which is a public port authority managed by the French government.


24 posted on 10/01/2024 7:29:34 AM PDT by xoxox
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To: Bon of Babble

plus at least half as much more in benefits.


25 posted on 10/01/2024 7:30:00 AM PDT by xoxox
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To: hillarys cankles

Life goes on be it good, bad or indifferent.
The inhabitants get what they vote for or
agree to. Enjoy your three score and ten.


26 posted on 10/01/2024 7:30:15 AM PDT by deport
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To: SMARTY

Giving away the Canal was indeed a mistake.


27 posted on 10/01/2024 7:31:02 AM PDT by livius
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To: xoxox

Through what is know as the US ocean carriers alliance.
Majority are Chinese shippers.

These are the ones the longshoremen basically work for. Same for the mariners.


28 posted on 10/01/2024 7:33:04 AM PDT by crz
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To: xoxox

Excuse me...US Maritime Alliance.


29 posted on 10/01/2024 7:37:46 AM PDT by crz
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To: hillarys cankles

Always start with the ridiculous and then deal down later.


30 posted on 10/01/2024 7:44:20 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (.You will suffer from one: The pain of discipline or the pain of regret. )
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To: Bon of Babble

Someone posted yesterday that they only make about $16-$23 an hour, heh.


31 posted on 10/01/2024 7:47:23 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (.You will suffer from one: The pain of discipline or the pain of regret. )
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To: SaxxonWoods

I live in Los Angeles.

A friend’s son’s wife works at the port as a “dockworker” and makes well over $100,000 - she apparently “inherited” the job from her dad. Works short hours as well and always seems to be off shopping instead of working.


32 posted on 10/01/2024 7:50:38 AM PDT by Bon of Babble (You Say You Want a Revolution?)
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To: hillarys cankles

There goes Christmas


33 posted on 10/01/2024 7:53:08 AM PDT by al baby (I know sarcasm )
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To: crz

Most interesting. Thank you.


34 posted on 10/01/2024 7:55:08 AM PDT by xoxox
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To: livius

Can’t overstate that. It was an epic surrender. Have my qualms about GLCX (Global Crossing) being sold to Chinese interests for pennies on the dollar, too.


35 posted on 10/01/2024 7:56:46 AM PDT by xoxox
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To: xoxox

We don’t own or control nearly anything in this country any longer.
In this case, the shippers were slapping fees onto shipping under the table.

Aside from the initial panic caused by the media, shelves will remain stocked for a couple weeks yet.

The thing that concerns me is the pharmaceuticals now sitting on those docks. The perishables are done...unless they settle quickly.


36 posted on 10/01/2024 8:01:48 AM PDT by crz
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To: hillarys cankles

Here is what the union turned down.

Nearly 50% wage increase over 6 years.

Triple employer contributions to employee retirement plans.

Strengthen health care options.

Retain current contract language around automation and semi automation.

Article FROM CNBC

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4268220/posts


37 posted on 10/01/2024 8:11:18 AM PDT by Ferndina
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To: Bon of Babble

I did an AI search and the data I found was around $65,000/yr. I didn’t see those numbers, but that’s makes me even feel less sorry for them and I’d expect the speed of substitution of capital for labor to be even faster in that case.


38 posted on 10/01/2024 8:12:15 AM PDT by econjack
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To: Ferndina

Them unions smell weakness.


39 posted on 10/01/2024 8:12:23 AM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a Momma deuce)
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To: hillarys cankles

Walk in both parties shoes.

Let them hammer it out. They know the truth.

The media and our government will lie. That is all we know for sure in our shoes.


40 posted on 10/01/2024 8:13:34 AM PDT by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It
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