[toldyou]

In 1989, my daughter was at WVU when they played Notre Dame
in the Fiesta Bowl. The Notre Dame players taunted the
WVU players throughout the game.

They were so out of control that
Lou Holtz came onto the field constantly to yell at his players. No warnings or penalties were given to the Notre Dame players by the refs. It was sad to see. Their fans were rude also.

I never liked them since that day.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_Fiesta_Bowl

[volare737]

Sam Hartman played for 5 years, yes 5 years, at Wake Forest, before transferring to Notre Dame last year, where he was their starting QB!

He then sat out the Bowl game to ensure he was not injured—as he was then drafted by the Washington Commanders.

It is ridiculous.

[Bonemaker]

The "Fainting Irish" perfected the techique for strategic game purposes...among other "virtues".

Back in the day..as in 40's and 50's..when I was growing up on the south side of Chicago, Notre Dame recruited heavily from that area. (Mike Lind was a classmate, and Dick Butkus at a nearby high school who wanted Notre Dame but was married, went to Illinois.) These were tough, talented, hard nosed guys noted for playing somewhat on the "dirty" side. Having said that, Notre Dame unquestionably had some great teams, coaches and nonpareil school spirit.