The Invaders!
-PJ
Posted on 09/06/2024 9:30:33 AM PDT by Red Badger
:^)
So where are the Boeing Space Operations naysayers now?
I’ve been watching the ‘Lookner Nerd’ on Agenda Free TV. (It tickles me how excited he gets over things like this...)
“BREAKING NEWS! BREAKING NEWS!”
The Invaders!
-PJ
Yeah. They’re gonna have to cut the video feed when the aliens emerge and start blasting everyone... :-o
NASA frowns on propulsive landing, starliner uses airbags and chutes only. SpaceX wanted and test flew Dragon as a fully propulsive landing no chutes at all but NASA was like not just no but hellno. SpaceX dropped a Dragon test mule from a helicopter let it hit terminal velocity on the thick lower air and then fired up it’s Super Dragos it landed just fine. You only need chutes to go from aerodynamic terminal velocity to about 3 meters per second with airbags. Without chutes the terminal velocity is about 200 meters per second so you need that much delta V in your engines plus some margins for gravity losses and if you want to hover then 9.8M/sec/per second of hover too. Not a small ask of stored rocket fuel in a small landing craft.
Would you have got onboard and ridden th st bad boy down from the ISS after all the leaks and noises? That’s the real question I’m a family member of a director level Boeing executive and I would not have ridden that down nope no way. My family member was not a DEI hire they hold a PhD in aeronautical engineering and post doctoral work in aeronautics. Every adult member of my family has at least one PhD some have two we are that family.
I think that's a bit premature.
Just because we're thankful that the pilots landed the plane successfully after the door plug blew out doesn't mean we forget that the door plug blew out.
Just because the Starliner landed successfully doesn't mean we forget that 10 thrusters failed to operate during the launch and docking.
-PJ
No, not for this flight. Maybe next. We have similar science PhDs here as well (physics/neuroscience), but retired.
LOL!
He’s fun, though; and very devoted to what he does.
A sophisticated victory, for a sophisticated mission, sophisticatedly written up. Great victory, for More💲💲💲to go where no man should ever go or was meant to go.
No damage was done to the ISS docking port during either arrival or departure and the Starliner’s reentry and touchdown was picture perfect. No complicated systems work perfectly -— at some level there s always departures from engineering norms.
How do you know where man is ‘meant to go’?
That opinion seems like sheer egotism to me.
It was a success. But is it cost effective? SpaceX is way ahead. Boeing is like the government now.
Yes, SpaceX is way ahead. But I agree that (NASA having access to) two dissimilar launch and delivery vehicles is a laudable goal. Some would consider it worth the extra price tag and others not.
tx
SpaceX had 8 uncrewed missions before flying a crewed mission into space.
Starliner had only 2 uncrewed missions before flying this one.
Did they get lucky? Were there enough test flights to find all of the reasonably possible departures from the norm?
-PJ
They did for their thruster bug. On X there are a bunch of posts going after the “rave” dance thruster firing as it left the ISS. If you listened to the broadcast they said as it was far enough away they test fired all 27 thrusters in rapid sequence as a test of them. All of them worked and then they did 12 more multiple thruster burns over the next 5 min yo push back from the ISS. Later it did a 59 second deorbit with four main thrusters burning continuously and since they are not gimballed there was a slew of RCS in attitude control mode it was cool to see the thrusters working on teams to keep it in the lane. Still I would want another full flight empty before my pilot behind gets in it. I would fly in Dragon this morning of offered a ride it’s the safest orbital vehicle humans have ever designed period. Dragon has bright delta V to do a emergency parachutes fail and you are at terminal velocity even over water the Super Drago engines will bring it to a halt and soft shakedown they would be fools to delete the computer code for that contingency since they already have the fuel and engines onboard Dragon plus a drop test under their belt using that code a d engines.
Anyone known how to turn off predictive text on a Android I loath that feature. I looked under keyboard it only shows auto punctuation on off.
-PJ
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