Posted on 09/05/2024 2:10:04 PM PDT by impimp
As Tucker Carlson faces backlash for airing a friendly interview with a Holocaust revisionist on his online show this week, some prominent Republicans are publicly raising concerns about the far-right pundit’s influential position in former President Donald Trump’s inner circle — as he increasingly imports extreme views and fringe conspiracy theories into party discourse.
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“He simply said the motive was expediency (because of a lack of planning on how to hold prisoners) rather than anti-Semitism.”
Gosh I guess enacting the Nuremburg Laws and imprisoning Jews for being Jews is not anti-semitism until you deliberately murder them.
populism is just a type of class warfare
“I go with ignorant”
For Cooper? If it is he should stop presenting himself as an historian. And Tucker should question his claim to be a historian.
I like Tucker but he’s not as knowledgable as he should be. Maybe it’s a generational thing. He’s 20 yrs younger than early boomers for whom WWII was a much bigger interest.
Yes.. 30 years ago I started reading for myself beginning in Genesis.. I could not find anything about an apple orchard.. nooo it was a fig grove where the party took place.. by the time I got to David the shepherd boy calling out Goliath as uncircumcised…. I too was Hmmmmm. there is nothing different in the mind and matter of human since the .beginning. Then years later I come across the book of Ecclesiastes and there it was there is nothing new under the sun…
Tucker reminds me of the classic SNL “Talk Back” skit with Buck Henry TV talk show host, where he can’t get anybody to call in, so he starts saying outrageous things like “Soviet Communism, Let’s Give It Chance” or “Hitler, Boy Do We Need Him Now”, and “I Like Dead Puppies”.
That is fine, but people also should not try to force their own opinion of an issue on others. Nobody here can claim they know everything and that they are always right.
Obviously there is an attempt to smear people on the right that have a voice lately.
Wise to take note of that. The anti-Semites you should be looking at are out marching in the streets and on the floor of the democrat convention.
Tucker Carlson isn’t the problem.
Yet they always get a pass. Even the self hating Jews get a pass.
I wish you were right but you’re not. Cooper said that the Nazis killed the Jews because they had too many POWs and lacked the resources to take care of them, so many of them died. This is false, and a whitewash of evil. The Nazis killed the Jews because they hated God. They hated Christianity too, for the same reason. Read a book called The Law of Blood, by Johann Chapoutot. Also, learn about the Evian Conference and the Wansee Conference. At the first, in 1938, the Nazi government tried to get countries other than Germany to accept the entire Jewish population of Germany. Nobody would take the Jews except the Dominican Republic and later, Costa Rica, which each agreed to take a handful. Faced with the prospect that the Jews couldn’t be removed, the Nazis held another conference, at Wansee in 1942, at which it was decided to murder all of the Jews in German territory, including any territory they conquered. The Jews didn’t just “die” in World War II. They were murdered: gassed in the millions, shot and worked to death.
There’s no room for uncertainty here, and anyone who claims there is is an antisemite. Period.
Mo one is tougher on the left than me. I want a Pinochete solution for the leftist media.
I should add that I yield to absolutely no-one in my opposition to antisemitism on the Left, which I believe is a lot more dangerous than kooks like Cooper. But the only reason they’re more dangerous is that there are a lot more of them. If there were as many Coopers as there are Ibram X. Kendi’s, I’d be just as worried about the Coopers as I am about the Kendis.
I like Tucker greatly and he is fearless and goes where others fear to go and it got him fired from Fox. Oddly his firing unleashed him. However, sometimes he goes off the rails but I do admire him that he goes there even though at times he is wrong. If the same standards that were applied to Tucker was applied to all the left wing media many would be fired.
I have been to Dachau. I must applaud the present day Germany in not trying to hide the holocaust but they put it on full display and with detail. When one peers into the ovens and sees where innocents were burned it is a very cold feeling of horror.
Oddly Germany was a very advanced society in science and arts etc. It was a very stark lessen that any society regardless of education, science, arts, and culture can commit the most heinous of crimes. It could happen in our society but we are armed.
When Hitler came to power he disarmed the people. Jews as loyal German citizens gave up their arms. That was a mistake. It should also be noted that Jews fought for Germany in WWI as loyal German citizens. It should also be noted and it is most ironic, our atomic program for the atomic bomb was lead by German and East European Jews. They built it for us instead of Hitler as they had seen his persecution of Jews. They would have built it for Hitler if he had not persecuted the Jews.
All true.
Cooper was clearly talking about Barbarossa and the lack of planning on the part of Nazi Germany in many ways, and one of them was the lack of understanding that there were going to be huge masses of people they were going to have to take responsibility for, and that they didn’t think that through or anticipate it. That is a fair assessment.
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It is not a fair assessment, it’s complete nonsense. The Nazi’s were planning on deliberately starving 10’s of millions of Russians when they launched Barbarossa. There was no lack of understanding. They knew full well what they wanted from the USSR, Lebensraum. To get it, Slavs had to go.
Cooper was talking about Russian POW’s (and Russian civilians) in the interview, pointing out the neglect in planning.
I did NOT hear him say that the Jewish Holocaust was “unintentional”, so if he did and I missed it (which is possible) if you can provide a timestamp I would appreciate it.
Thing is, I don’t believe that point of view from Cooper is in outer space or incompatible with known facts. (I am not a fan of his in any way. But that doesn’t make me right and him wrong). It may not be completely correct in every aspect.
It is the feeding of the POW’s, I believe that may have put the Germans in that state where they had to choose between Germans eating and “sub-human” Russians eating.
Feeding 5.7 million people every day is no small matter.
I maintain it is believable, because of the scale-It wasn’t that the Germans captured 200,000 Russian soldiers...They captured 5.7 million Russian soldiers, and 3.5 million of those Russians died in captivity.
On the condition of the Russian POW’s-something that is not, and never has been in question, only a very small portion of those 3.5 million dead prisoners were shot outright, I would guess. The vast number of them were viewed as unimportant and expendable, if not worthy of extermination.
But I am unaware of a codified plan, laid down on paper in advance to shoot, starve, or work to death Soviet POWs. Not like the plan the Nazis put into action at the Wannsee Conference in 1942. That is why I believe Cooper termed it “unintentional”. If they HAD codified it in the same way they did with Jews, then it would indeed be intentional.
And it is not beyond the imagining that in their already racist view of Slavs, they may not have, in their hatred, differentiated much between Russians and Jews in any case. I believe the Nazi term to lump them all together was “Untermenschen”. Subhumans to them,
So the treatment is not far different in the camps...to the point I have read an account (can’t remember which) where there were Jews in one of the concentration camps took pity on seeing the Russian POWs on the other side of the wire. (The Nazis kept the camps segregated, and the work parties too.)
3.3 million dead speaks for itself, but the sight of Jewish concentration camp inmates feeling sorry for them because their situation was so pathetically horrible really brings that home.
That said, if they had 5 million prisoners, they had to feed them. In a country being bombed, resources going to the military, and farming manpower on the battlefield, there was going to be less food to start with, fewer people to harvest crops and create food, and food destroyed on the way to people who needed it in population centers. Anything that moved on the ground was attacked by Allied aircraft.
In the face of all that, how much food were they going to take away to feed Russian POW’s? Those same POW’s who were responsible of the death of their loved ones? (Not saying that was right-just describing how the situation could have been framed.
It is at that point where the choice is shoot them all, or work them to death. And they worked 3.5 million Russians to death. My point is, I agree that it could have reached that point because they did not forsee it.
That’s all. And that is what I got from watching it.
appreciate the write-up
So those trains loaded with Jews for the camps in Poland was just to make things easier for them. I realize it’s 1200 pages double columned but take a try at reading The Destruction of the European Jews.
“One thing I should like to say on this day which may be memorable for others as well as for us Germans: In the course of my life I have very often been a prophet, and have usually been ridiculed for it. During the time of my struggle for power it was in the first instance the Jewish race which only received my prophecies with laughter when I said that I would one day take over the leadership of the State, and with it that of the whole nation, and that I would then among many other things settle the Jewish problem. Their laughter was uproarious, but I think that for some time now they have been laughing on the other side of their face. Today I will once more be a prophet: If the international Jewish financiers in and outside Europe should succeed in plunging the nations once more into a world war, then the result will not be the Bolshevization of the earth, and thus the victory of Jewry, but the annihilation of the Jewish race in Europe!”
-Adolf Hitler January 30, 1939 in a speech to the Reichstag
If the Germans’ killing of Soviet POWs was purely an accident caused by limited resources... why didn’t they also systematically starve the 1.8 million French POWs they also captured? Zero French POWs were starved to death while in German captivity. This fails basic logic.
It’s true that originally Hitler saw Poland as an ally because of their hatred of the Russians. But most likely once he used the Poles to help defeat the Soviet Union, he would have turned on them.
And be fair, German POWs captured by the Soviets didn’t exactly live in a country club.
Which is total bullshit. Not surprising coming from you
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