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No, Churchill Did Not Instigate WWII Against Hitler
Providence Magazine ^ | 9/4/2024 | Miles Smith

Posted on 09/04/2024 6:24:54 PM PDT by marcusmaximus

Tucker Carlson recently had Darryl Cooper on his podcast to discuss history. The most prominent talking point of Cooper, a historian of sorts, was the ostensibly avoidable nature of the Second World War. It’s not a new thesis; there has always been an American polemic that the United States’ involvement in WWII was unnecessary and unwinnable. Charles Lindbergh and the 1930s America First movement did not think the United States’ involvement was inevitable. A long and often-times inconsistent tradition of Anglophobia convinced many Americans—Lindbergh being the most notable—that Great Britain was tricking the United States into a war it had no stake in. What makes Cooper interesting, and worrisome, is the way he sees Winston Churchill as a primary aggressor in the Second World War instead of the nakedly genocidal, tyrannical, and racist Führer of Germany, Adolf Hitler. Churchill’s warmongering—if one insists on calling it that—was in the defense of the conservative and even nationalist European system against Nazi imperialism.

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To: Kazan

21 posted on 09/04/2024 6:48:38 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: Kazan

22 posted on 09/04/2024 6:50:16 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: marcusmaximus

You’re the one supporting neo-Nazis in Ukraine and are the one posting this?


23 posted on 09/04/2024 6:50:53 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: marcusmaximus
You certainly have Nazi fetish, don't you, Marcus.

Is that why the war in Ukraine is so personal to you? Your neo-Nazi brethren are taking a beating.

24 posted on 09/04/2024 6:52:08 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: Bulwyf

Then FDR sold out Eastern Europe to his buddy Stalin.


25 posted on 09/04/2024 6:52:08 PM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING AMERICA, AND HE WILL HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE HIM!)
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To: Kazan

Tucker Carlson bashed Russian President Vladimir Putin’s justification for invading Ukraine, claiming that the “denazification” of the country was “one of the dumbest things I’d ever heard.”

“I thought it was one of the dumbest things I’d ever heard,” Carlson told Fridman. “I didn’t understand what it meant.”

“I hate that whole conversation because it’s not real,” he continued. “It’s just ad hominem. It’s a way of associating someone with an evil regime that doesn’t exist anymore.”

https://www.newsweek.com/tucker-carlson-throws-putin-under-bus-1874897


26 posted on 09/04/2024 6:52:46 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: Kazan

Tucker Carlson bashed Russian President Vladimir Putin’s justification for invading Ukraine, claiming that the “denazification” of the country was “one of the dumbest things I’d ever heard.”

“I thought it was one of the dumbest things I’d ever heard,” Carlson told Fridman. “I didn’t understand what it meant.”

“I hate that whole conversation because it’s not real,” he continued. “It’s just ad hominem. It’s a way of associating someone with an evil regime that doesn’t exist anymore.”

https://www.newsweek.com/tucker-carlson-throws-putin-under-bus-1874897


27 posted on 09/04/2024 6:53:34 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: marcusmaximus

If it had been ‘anybody but Hitler’, and the Anglos had acted more reasonably to the Danzig Crisis, history would have said that the Germans were merely seeking to rectify the immense damage done by the Treaty of Versailles.


28 posted on 09/04/2024 6:54:26 PM PDT by bakeneko
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To: marcusmaximus

Churchill was so concerned about Poland being invaded. I think that is why Churchill justified sending an to army. But, when WWII was over, Churchill agreed that the Poles should be enslaved behind the Iron Curtain. So, he wasn’t really that concerned about the fate of the Poles.

Another point, is Churchill was blamed for the Gallipoli Campaign debacle and needed a war to redeem his reputation.

A very good point in the podcast, is that Germany was a loser nation twice, and look what is now happening to Germany and its culture. It looks like a loser nation. England was a winner, and now it looks like a defeated nation. Poland and Hungary are for the Poles and Hungarians, and have not lost their cultural identy, nor has Russia. American globilist liberal influence can be toxic.

Listen to the podcast, then make up your own mind. The historian is not saying that Hitler is a nice guy. Only, only that Churchill firebombed cities and the only way he could defeat Germany was by getting the US into WWII.

The historian also said that anyone who opines anything negative about the Churchill myth would be quickly attacked.


29 posted on 09/04/2024 6:54:35 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie ( @whoisourPresident)
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To: cowboyusa

Then FDR sold out Eastern Europe to his buddy Stalin.

_________________

Churchill was complicit.


30 posted on 09/04/2024 6:55:54 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie ( @whoisourPresident)
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To: Bulwyf

” We did. We set the stage, we did it all. It was inevitable.

Hitler was an opportunist who saw it coming and seized the reigns.

History is written by the Victors, but it’s always far more complex than we know. “

Well said !


31 posted on 09/04/2024 6:57:22 PM PDT by sushiman
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To: The_Media_never_lie

He tried. FDR was determined to sell out, and he was the senior partner.


32 posted on 09/04/2024 6:58:49 PM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING AMERICA, AND HE WILL HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE HIM!)
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To: marcusmaximus
So, why, then, did you throw such a hissy fit when Tucker interviewed Putin?

You can't keep your propaganda straight.

33 posted on 09/04/2024 6:59:01 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: cowboyusa
> Then FDR sold out Eastern Europe to his buddy Stalin. <

FDR certainly did not have Churchill’s grit or vision, but I have to give FDR a reluctant pass here.

The Red Army of 1945 was tough, experienced, and well-lead. Certainly not the bumbling Red Army of 1940. The Western Allies could have forced them back, but it would have been terrible and bloody.

Congress never would have stood for it. And neither would have the American people. It took awhile, but these three got the job done peacefully.


34 posted on 09/04/2024 7:01:26 PM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: cowboyusa

Oh BS....
Churchill, without telling the U.S., gave eastern Europe to the Russians, in exchange for control of Greece...
He was a pile of manure...


35 posted on 09/04/2024 7:01:53 PM PDT by joe fonebone (And the people said NO! The End)
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To: The_Media_never_lie
More Hitler revisionism from Tucker's so-called "historian". Funny how with Tucker, it's everyone else's fault but Hitler's.

“They went in with no plan for that and they just threw these people into camps. And millions of people ended up dead there.”
36 posted on 09/04/2024 7:02:32 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: cowboyusa

No...
Churchill did that...
Read about the “Naughty” document..


37 posted on 09/04/2024 7:02:57 PM PDT by joe fonebone (And the people said NO! The End)
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To: joe fonebone

Blame FDR. He gave his buddy Stalin Eastern Eutope on a platter. The traitor has Soviet spies all over his Administration.


38 posted on 09/04/2024 7:03:35 PM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING AMERICA, AND HE WILL HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE HIM!)
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To: Kazan

Marcus is paid by the Post - he is just doing what he is told to do by his handlers.


39 posted on 09/04/2024 7:04:58 PM PDT by EC Washington
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To: Fiji Hill

Hitler was right about the communists. Churchill was right about Hitler. We should have let Hitler kill the commies and then turn around and killed Hitler.


40 posted on 09/04/2024 7:06:11 PM PDT by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them )
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