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1 posted on 09/02/2024 7:00:34 AM PDT by MtnClimber
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It seems that they have not replaced coal for the base load generation.


2 posted on 09/02/2024 7:00:47 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page. More photos added.)
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Wind and Solar are cost ineffective!

There is insufficient ability to store the power they generate for times the sun doesn't shine and the wind doesn't blow.

Windmills have a 21 year payback period and a 20 year service life....if you're lucky.

We will never have the resources necessary to make the batteries to store the power.

3 posted on 09/02/2024 7:04:45 AM PDT by G Larry (Its RACIST to impose slave wages on LEGAL immigrants and minorities by importing cheap ILLEGAL labor)
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Does anyone really doubt that green makes the electricity you use more expensive? It is at least a double system. For every Kw of green energy there has to be another of some kind of battery or conventional base load to back it up. Batteries only last a very short time so if they are used for backup there must still be full conventional redundant backup.

Heck yeah it is more expensive!!!

4 posted on 09/02/2024 7:11:47 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (More important than why there was nobody protecting the AGR roof, how did Crooks know that?)
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So, the states that have the most wind generate the most electricity from wind and they are about built out, no more locations.
Moving all that wind to where it isn’t requires more lines
I’d like to see the nameplate wind capacity compared to the actual wind generated power. I’m told it is about 35%. Anybody know?


6 posted on 09/02/2024 7:18:46 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (More important than why there was nobody protecting the AGR roof, how did Crooks know that?)
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Since a state would need (for many years into the future) a backup power system (i.e. the current fossil fuel electrical system), the price comparison needs to be between the price of natural gas and the wholesale solar farm price of electricity.

A household’s energy needs need to be met via a well-thought-out system involving all electrical devices of the household. This has not been done because such systems would eliminate the existing fossil fuel system and the need for the unionized local electric company.


7 posted on 09/02/2024 7:25:57 AM PDT by Brian Griffin ("Why didn’t she do it three and a half years ago?”)
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No and they are not renewable. Hydrocarbons are natural and renewable, until the sun explodes and cooks the planet anyway...


12 posted on 09/02/2024 10:31:05 AM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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There is nowhere on earth (which is where we live, BTW) where they have replaced even a single fossil fuel power plant with a renewable source where the cost of electricity has not GONE UP SIGNIFICANTLY.

Germany in particular is the poster girl for “green” energy and the best they have ever managed is “renewable” energy that’s 3x as costly per kWh as fossil fuel or hydroelectric or nuclear produced.


17 posted on 09/02/2024 5:27:53 PM PDT by Paal Gulli
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