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To: Bob434

But you still believe in God. Why wouldn’t you consider that some people might experience Him in-person?


145 posted on 08/18/2024 7:06:01 AM PDT by Lazamataz (If you are upset the bullet missed, contact me immediately. I'll make sure your bullet doesn't.)
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To: Lazamataz

If you’ll read my original posts, you will see I do acknowledge that that might be possible. I do however think that there might be other reasons- but I don’t rule out the possibi,ity that Jesus can come and usher people from this life to the next, and they can see him and speak of it before passing on.

I do know however that there is a huge spiritual battle taking place, and that Satan does disguise hi self as an angel of light in order to keep people from reaching out for salvation (one of my posts talks agout that and how a person can be deceived to think they are forgiven by God when infsct they havent been beczuze that person doesnt accept Christ as savior, thinking that their experience in an nde was proof that God accepts them when in realkty it was the evil one who deceived the person)

I don’t discount that Jesus can appear to people at all. I do however know that Satan does deceived people and walks around loo,ing for subjects to deceived, and people dying are in a vulnerable place mentally and physically and can be susceptible to deceit more readily as a result


148 posted on 08/18/2024 7:14:03 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: Lazamataz

I also know that angels can appear, as the Bible instructs us not to neglect strangers as they may be angels sent to us for whatever reason. We may entertain angels unawares.

I don’t discount all nde’s- far from it. I do question though those that are unblical (ie that everyone is fine and don’t need to worry because God is not judgemental), and do question those who claim to have seen God and spoken with him and lived, as the Bible clearly states that noone has seen God and lived.

Exodus 33:20
Verse Concepts

But He said, “You cannot see My face, for no man can see Me and live!”

Source: https://bible.knowing-jesus.com/topics/Not-Seeing-God


149 posted on 08/18/2024 7:21:38 AM PDT by Bob434
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Pll3ase let me make clear that I do not doubt every case of nde’s or peoples experiences of them. I have doubt about my own nde- as it was not biblical, and I obviously would have doubts about other people’s nde’s if they were unbiblical too. I tried to 3xplain what I think may have happened in my case- and why I experienced what I did. Was it real? I have my doubts- was part of it real? “Perhaps” is about all i can say for it.

Personally, and im just guessing here, I think it “might have been” a satanic attack during my weakest moments- it really shook me for a long time. It shook my faith big time. It caused me to struggle with “feeling unsaved” for a long time.

That “alone-ness in the outer darkness” was just so overwhelming an “experience” that all I can say now is, that if it is anywhere near what hell is going to be like, then brother, keep it away from me! I want no part of it.

Did it etch memories into my subconscious? Sure, how could it not, but here is where faith comes in- I must believe that it was not biblical, that it was meant to drag me down spiritually, and that I am a child of God DESPITE how i may feel.

Jesus is preparing a mansion for me and all his children- this life is nothing but a temporary waypoint on my journey to heaven. I pray that God blesses you in your searching and questioning.


263 posted on 08/19/2024 6:48:58 AM PDT by Bob434
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