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Near-Death Experiences As Proof of a God
Various Places | 8/18./2024 | By Laz A. Mataz

Posted on 08/18/2024 12:03:17 AM PDT by Lazamataz

I've been a fan of watching YouTube accounts of Near Death Experiences lately. There are certain common elements:

Various neuroscientists have stated that simple biological processes of death produce these effects. Maybe the tunnel and the light can be explained by this, but the rest? No way. I cannot think that mere biological processes could manifest such a detailed series of accounts. Nor is there any evolutionary benefit to these processes, obviously... you are dead, right? Evolution is highly unlikely to be a factor here.

So this, to me, seems like quasi-scientific proof of a God. Now, religions have added all sorts of nonsense around these concepts, since almost to a person, the subject of an NDE describes a God that is utterly nonjudgemental and loving. So, take the 10 Commandments: Seems like the 10 Commandments were written to make OUR lives better, and it is not some cosmic scorecard that God is judging us on.

One person I know personally that had an NDE, would not talk a lot about it, but the one thing he did relate is that 'all the nonsense religion spouts? The beings on the other side, they don't care. Just be loving.'

And that aligns with what Jesus said: To love God with all your heart, and to love your fellow man.


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To: TheWriterTX

Me as well. Including finfing mom after she had passed. I got to witness to her a couple of days prior.


61 posted on 08/18/2024 4:18:19 AM PDT by sauropod ("This is a time when people reveal themselves for who they are." James O'Keefe Ne supra crepidam)
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To: Lazamataz

I care, you just caught me at a bad time. My mother had one. I was 4, my sisters were in between 10 and 12. She begged to go back to finish raising us. I was with her when she died 35 years later. She was in at-home hospice. She just glided away.

CC


62 posted on 08/18/2024 4:23:25 AM PDT by Celtic Conservative (My cats are more amusing than 200 channels worth of TV.)
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To: Lazamataz

I have heard a number of these accounts and there’s just no way some of the circumstances can be explained by these “scientists” who are usually determined to spread their Godless beliefs.

I remember one lady in a hospital, dying in her bed. She left her body and went around various areas of the hospital, including the outside. She was brought back awhile later after flatlining, and they were quite surprised. She told them of her amazing encounter with God, what she saw, who she saw, etc. They assured her it was brain function, etc.

So she told them about certain people in certain rooms of the hospital. Then she told them to go and check the cement sill surrounding the outside of the building over on the west side, at around the 8th floor, as there was an old sneaker someone had tossed out there. They found the sneaker and didn’t say another word.

It’s out there, Laz. I guarantee you. Unless God decides that this corrupt and vicious world needs Christ to come back and straighten things up first. Either way, it’s our only hope. So, believe, be good, and love and forgive.


63 posted on 08/18/2024 4:23:30 AM PDT by JudyinCanada (You're it. )
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To: roving

“God isn’t giving tours of Heaven. You are to die once.”

Exactly.


64 posted on 08/18/2024 4:24:26 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (I'm voting for the convicted felon with the pierced ear. )
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To: Lazamataz

I guess I’ll need noise canceling headphones in the afterlife. Can you recommend a brand?


65 posted on 08/18/2024 4:32:12 AM PDT by Larry Lucido (Donate! Don't just post clickbait!)
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To: Lazamataz

Excellent podcast:

https://podbay.fm/p/where-is-my-mind

Episode 5 is Near Death Experiences

Episode 6 is The Life Review


66 posted on 08/18/2024 4:32:40 AM PDT by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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To: SaveFerris

I’ve actually prayed and asked God to please skip that part with me. I am fully aware of my many failures and will feel great remorse. Yikes is right.


67 posted on 08/18/2024 4:35:33 AM PDT by JudyinCanada (You're it. )
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To: Lazamataz

In my mother’s womb, God knew me, as He created me
He knows the plans He has for me

He knows my beginning ….and the date I pass into Glory
It is already written

When we die, if we know the Lord as Savior, our souls immediately go to Heaven

And on that great Judgment Day when He returns every knee shall bow, every tongue confess, that Jesus is Lord

And those who know him, who have been redeemed, even if now dead, will rise up…..renewed and complete…..and meet Him in the air
This is not from me…..this is found in His Word


68 posted on 08/18/2024 4:38:18 AM PDT by Guenevere (“If the foundations are destroyed, what can the righteous do)
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To: Lazamataz; Fred Nerks; TigersEye
Whatever one might believe in terms of God, Jesus, Allah, or other religions, the fact is that the process of death itself has been mapped out for a thousand years in a Tibetan Text called the Bardo Thodol.

That map covers the dissolution of sensory perception, the order of that dissolution ( hearing is the last to go), and the process one goes through in transitioning through death into rebirth. Rebirth can occur into a heaven, or into another life with a corporeal body according to the text. How one arrives at the next life depends on the habitual aspects of ones heart at the time of death.If one habitually acts as a glutton, one can be reborn as such, for example.

The cycles of negative karma can either be gone through by acting habitually out, or transcended according to ones path of relating to the world while one is here on earth.

I highly recommend everyone to read this edition of the Tibetan "Book of the Dead" as it is called in the West.The true title the text is " “Liberation through Hearing in the Intermediate State (bardo)”

Reading his text, no matter what ones religion is, is very helpful , it does not create any problems. it just describes the process of death ( dissolution) and how one can achieve a favorable rebirth or how it is possible to escape the cycle of birth, old age ,sickness and death.

I highly recommend this version with a forward by my root teacher,Chogyam Trungpa, the Tibetan text of the Bardo Thodol translated by Francesca Freemantle:



Source Tibetan Book of Dead by Freemantle

69 posted on 08/18/2024 4:51:08 AM PDT by Candor7 (Ask not for whom the Trump Trolls,He trolls for thee!),<img src="" width=500</img><a href="">tag</a>)
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To: Lazamataz
Your best and your worst actions are all covered.

Uh oh - curtains for me.

70 posted on 08/18/2024 4:54:46 AM PDT by grobdriver (The CDC can KMA!)
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To: Lazamataz; All

+ thanks


71 posted on 08/18/2024 4:55:12 AM PDT by PGalt (Past Peak Civilization?)
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To: RoosterRedux; captmar-vell; alexander_busek
The ones I find particularly confusing are those wherein the experiencers come back into their bodies with declarations like, "Everything you do during your life is good and fine. There is no guilt or reason to worry." This I find very strange because, like most of us, I have seen (and still see) some people do some really evil things.

I slept on this, and also those who objected to me saying God was (reportedly) without judgment.

Remember, you still have a life review, and during your life review you experience everything significant you did -- even as a child! -- from the perspective of your victim or beneficiary.

So, take Hitler: He'd have to experience the anguish and desolation of each and every Jew in the gas chamber... and that's just one of his actions!

Maybe it's not God that judges you. Maybe YOU judge you, during your life review. I wouldn't expect Hitler's, or Mussolini's, or Pol Pot's life review to be fun.

Not any fun at all.

72 posted on 08/18/2024 4:57:15 AM PDT by Lazamataz (If you are upset the bullet missed, contact me immediately. I'll make sure your bullet doesn't.)
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To: grobdriver
"Your best and your worst actions are all covered."

Uh oh - curtains for me.

If you are kidding, good one.

If not, start logging some good actions, so at least you will have those!

73 posted on 08/18/2024 4:58:41 AM PDT by Lazamataz (If you are upset the bullet missed, contact me immediately. I'll make sure your bullet doesn't.)
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To: Larry Lucido
I guess I’ll need noise canceling headphones in the afterlife. Can you recommend a brand?

Nossir. See, you will need experience-cancelling headphones, and I don't know of any of those.

74 posted on 08/18/2024 4:59:52 AM PDT by Lazamataz (If you are upset the bullet missed, contact me immediately. I'll make sure your bullet doesn't.)
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To: TheWriterTX

“Some people live their lives without ever really knowing their purpose in the world. I am not one of them.”

And some people live their lives neither knowing, nor caring, that they “have” a purpose in this life. You are blessed to know that truth.


75 posted on 08/18/2024 5:00:03 AM PDT by Danie_2023
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To: Lazamataz
Not all have life review experiences. And some who do find them quick and easy...not poignant.

While life reviews are a significant part of many NDEs, they do not occur in all cases. The content of an NDE can be influenced by a variety of factors, including cultural background, personal beliefs, and the circumstances of the NDE itself.

76 posted on 08/18/2024 5:03:34 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (Thinking is difficult. That’s why people prefer to just accept what they are told by the media.)
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To: Lazamataz

Appreciate your sharing, Laz.

Book(s) by Elisabeth Kübler-Ross helped me after my grandfather died when I was 21. (I was the oldest granddaughter born on his birthday.) His death from a heart attack while mending fence on the farm hit me very hard.

Kübler-Ross was a pioneer in hospice and palliative care and wrote “On Death and Dying” (1969) as well as numerous other books addressing NDE.

(LOL your joke about NeverTrumpers.)


77 posted on 08/18/2024 5:06:14 AM PDT by lyby ("Mathematics is the language with which God has written the universe." ~ Galileo Galilei)
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To: Lazamataz

“you experience everything significant you did — even as a child! — from the perspective of your victim or beneficiary.”

Exactly correct.

Once you have done that you know what you need to know—and evasion is impossible. No outside judge is needed.

The leftist materialists believe they can get away with anything without consequences—major blunder.


78 posted on 08/18/2024 5:06:23 AM PDT by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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To: JudyinCanada

Ok, I’ll tell you two of the coolest experiences.

One young lady died on the operating table, and she hovered over her body for a bit. Then she got curious where her father was. She drifted through a few hospital walls to find him in the cafeteria.

She saw him there, buying a Reeses Peanut Butter cup. She remembers thinking, “Wow, that’s weird. He’s such a health fanatic, and he’s buying THAT!”

When she was brought back, much later she related her vision, and the dad was gobsmacked! “How did you see that! You were unconscious in an operating room!”

The other experience was even more profound. In it, the lady was directed that she had to come back. She didn’t want to, but it was decreed to her. She was given a laundry list of things she had yet to do.

One of them stuck out to her: Her son was going to die prematurely and she had to hold the family together through it, during its grief.

Her son was seven at the time.

So now she’s back, and every morning she wakes up, dreading the possibility... “Will he die today?”

This goes on, year after year, until finally she writes it off to a hallucination or something.

Then, at the age of 18, her son dies in a car wreck. She remembered her mission, and held the father and the two daughters together as a family.

Got chill bumps on that one.


79 posted on 08/18/2024 5:07:35 AM PDT by Lazamataz (If you are upset the bullet missed, contact me immediately. I'll make sure your bullet doesn't.)
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To: Lazamataz; null and void
And that aligns with what Jesus said: To love God with all your heart, and to love your fellow man.

Related:

>>>Certain Briton traditions have maintained that Arthur is an eternal king who had never truly died but would return as the "once and future" king. <<<

Avalon

Would you like to know where this place is, Laz? Because I can show you exactly where it is. I've mentioned it before around here, but so far nobody has inquired. Maybe they think I'm joking around, but to know the Author of humor is to take these sorts of things as seriously as a heart attack.

You know how it goes... people don't really want to know because then they'd have to deal with it.

There's always the proverbial 2 x 4. It's a "staple of construction", just not in the way people thwa... think.

80 posted on 08/18/2024 5:10:50 AM PDT by Ezekiel (🆘️ "Come fly with US". 🔴 Ingenuity -- because the Son of David begins with MARS ♂️, aka every man)
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