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Near-Death Experiences As Proof of a God
Various Places | 8/18./2024 | By Laz A. Mataz

Posted on 08/18/2024 12:03:17 AM PDT by Lazamataz

I've been a fan of watching YouTube accounts of Near Death Experiences lately. There are certain common elements:

Various neuroscientists have stated that simple biological processes of death produce these effects. Maybe the tunnel and the light can be explained by this, but the rest? No way. I cannot think that mere biological processes could manifest such a detailed series of accounts. Nor is there any evolutionary benefit to these processes, obviously... you are dead, right? Evolution is highly unlikely to be a factor here.

So this, to me, seems like quasi-scientific proof of a God. Now, religions have added all sorts of nonsense around these concepts, since almost to a person, the subject of an NDE describes a God that is utterly nonjudgemental and loving. So, take the 10 Commandments: Seems like the 10 Commandments were written to make OUR lives better, and it is not some cosmic scorecard that God is judging us on.

One person I know personally that had an NDE, would not talk a lot about it, but the one thing he did relate is that 'all the nonsense religion spouts? The beings on the other side, they don't care. Just be loving.'

And that aligns with what Jesus said: To love God with all your heart, and to love your fellow man.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Religion; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: faithandphilosophy; nde; neardeathexperience; raymondmoody; raymoody
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To: Lazamataz

I’ve been feeling disconnected from God recently due to my own failings. I don’t think it was a coincidence that your post was the first one I saw this morning. Thanks.


41 posted on 08/18/2024 2:54:16 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (DemoncRATS have always been the Jackass party, now they are also the Hamas party.)
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To: Lazamataz

This is very interesting to me. I would really like to believe there is something after death, whether it’s to be sent back to learn and experience, or some sort of heaven, or hell for those that deserve it, and I would love to be re-united with relatives. I have a story which I believe is true, not an NDE, but along similar lines. My aunt, my mother’s sister was a French model after WW2. She was in a plane crash on the way to an event in Africa, Algiers if I remember correctly. She was one of the survivors, but suffered some head injury. There was a convent nearby that had medical facilities and she was taken there. During the first 2 weeks, she was speaking fluent English. Except she did not know English. One morning she woke up and was again speaking her native tongue, French. The nuns were in shock and asked her why she was now speaking French when she was previously speaking English. My aunt had no idea what they were telling her. Strange or what?


42 posted on 08/18/2024 2:56:15 AM PDT by Omnivore-Dan
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To: Lazamataz

Nice post. Thanks


43 posted on 08/18/2024 3:03:47 AM PDT by brooklin
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To: Lazamataz
I've never had a near-death experience. Neither have I ever met anyone who has. Or if I did, they kept it to themselves.

There is something I have experienced though.

I was in Mom's room at the hospice, holding her hand as she lay dying. It sounds so crazy, but I saw the moment her spirit left her body. She was there and then faster than the eye can blink she was gone.

A few years later it happened again. My dad had been in the hospital for two weeks following a stroke. He wasn't responsive. He wasn't going to get any better. And he had long made his wishes known. It fell to me to sign the do not resuscitate order. The doctors pulled the life support.

Twelve hours later I was holding his hand and saw and felt his soul depart from him.

I've never liked looking at dead bodies. I've been that way since very early childhood. What happened with Mom and Dad showed me why that is. Because a dead body looks so *wrong*. There is no spark of the person who was and still is, there anymore. The soul has left and there is just slowly crumbling inanimate matter remaining behind. Not like people who are alive, who "shine" or "glow" or something. Living people and animals have a radiance that vanishes like a light turned off the moment they're gone.

I'm not saying that I "see" the soul, but it is something that I've done all my life, that Mom's passing and then Dad's showed me.

This is the very first time I've ever shared about that. Maybe someone else will raise their hand and tell me that they can see souls, too.

44 posted on 08/18/2024 3:10:01 AM PDT by Ciaphas Cain (A perfect storm. There will be no escape from what is coming.)
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To: TheWriterTX

Thanks for relating your story. I have had a cardiac arrest. I don’t remember anything or anyone, but in the back of my mind I sense someone or something talking to me.


45 posted on 08/18/2024 3:16:15 AM PDT by brooklin
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To: caww

The mind can produce seemingly reality which isn’t really.

But many divrse people come up with essentially the same story?


46 posted on 08/18/2024 3:20:04 AM PDT by Adder (End fascism...defeat all Democrats.)
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To: SaveFerris; Lazamataz

+1000.

Love God with all your heart, all your mind and all your soul.

‘pod


47 posted on 08/18/2024 3:24:04 AM PDT by sauropod ("This is a time when people reveal themselves for who they are." James O'Keefe Ne supra crepidam)
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To: 21twelve

That was funny.


48 posted on 08/18/2024 3:25:35 AM PDT by sauropod ("This is a time when people reveal themselves for who they are." James O'Keefe Ne supra crepidam)
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To: TheWriterTX

Your story brought me to tears.


49 posted on 08/18/2024 3:31:54 AM PDT by sauropod ("This is a time when people reveal themselves for who they are." James O'Keefe Ne supra crepidam)
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To: Lazamataz

My son was taken to heaven in a vision. He saw family.. Talked to them.. He described it as peace. He wrote a two page description.. He was a writer and would have written so much more,.. The Lord took him to glory.. There was no fear. Seeing it.. and Jesus.


50 posted on 08/18/2024 3:32:11 AM PDT by frnewsjunkie ( )
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To: Lazamataz
So Albert Brooks was right?
51 posted on 08/18/2024 3:33:15 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (What is the cost of lies?)
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To: Ciaphas Cain

It’s looking into their eyes and seeing the light go out.


52 posted on 08/18/2024 3:38:58 AM PDT by Silentgypsy (In my defense, I was left unsupervised.)
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To: sauropod

I’ve had several powerful spiritual experiences throughout my life.

That was the first and most impactful. It set the course for how I conducted myself the rest of my life.


53 posted on 08/18/2024 3:40:04 AM PDT by TheWriterTX (๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธโœ๏ธ๐Ÿ™๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ฑ)
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To: higgmeister

Not surprising that Genesis 1:2 talks about the Holy Spirit moving over the face of the water.


54 posted on 08/18/2024 3:50:50 AM PDT by TheWriterTX (๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธโœ๏ธ๐Ÿ™๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ฑ)
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To: Equine1952
"What scares me is why heโ€™s keeping me around. "

At 68, I too, wonder why I'm still here. I can easily think of a number of times I should have died. I think He has a plan for me, something I am to do in my life. I am not scared, though. Actually, I can hardly wait for that moment to arrive.

I think it will be a proud moment for me...

55 posted on 08/18/2024 3:52:16 AM PDT by jeffc (Resident of the free State of Florida)
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To: TheWriterTX
Beautiful story.

Sadly, nothing like this has ever happened to me.

56 posted on 08/18/2024 3:53:15 AM PDT by jeffc (Resident of the free State of Florida)
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To: Lazamataz
I have watched many videos (weeding out those that seem doubtful or poorly done) and have read many articles and books on the subject (going back to Raymond Moody's Life After Life in 1975). I am perplexed by the differences in the experiences (as opposed to the common elements).

Of those that are positive (i.e., not the hellish ones), many confirm the experiencers' faith or lack thereof. There are some that confirm a faith in the Gospel and there are others that have unmistakable New Age themes (and confirm that kind of belief). That strikes me as odd.

If one accepts the idea that they are real in that the experiencers are indeed brain dead and out-of-the-body--and there are many, many observations of the experiencers that establish this, like seeing things done by surgeons or people standing in the hall outside an operating room--then the question emerges, is it possible for a person's spirit to have a kind of hallucination right after leaving the body?

The ones I find particularly confusing are those wherein the experiencers come back into their bodies with declarations like, "Everything you do during your life is good and fine. There is no guilt or reason to worry."

This I find very strange because, like most of us, I have seen (and still see) some people do some really evil things. And this "no worries" kind of NDE stands in stark contrast to the "hellish" ones (which frankly sound quite believable, if only because of the shock of those experiencing them).

57 posted on 08/18/2024 3:55:14 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (Thinking is difficult. Thatโ€™s why people prefer to just accept what they are told by the media.)
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To: captmar-vell

Good post.


58 posted on 08/18/2024 4:04:55 AM PDT by reasonisfaith (What are the personal implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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To: alexander_busek

Thank you for noticing that.


59 posted on 08/18/2024 4:07:34 AM PDT by reasonisfaith (What are the personal implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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To: captmar-vell
I definitely agree with you. I don't understand why people who have NDEs believe every spirit they encounter. Such belief is very naive.
60 posted on 08/18/2024 4:13:04 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (Thinking is difficult. Thatโ€™s why people prefer to just accept what they are told by the media.)
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