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Boeing Wins Space Mission Contracts Owing To Its 'Armies Of Lobbyists,' Says SpaceX CEO Elon Musk Amid Starliner Return Delay
Benzinga via Yahoo Finance ^ | July 29, 2024 | Anan Ashraf

Posted on 07/31/2024 4:39:58 AM PDT by SunkenCiv

SpaceX CEO Elon Musk said on Saturday that its rival Boeing Co. is awarded government contracts in the space segment owing to their "armies of lobbyists" despite safety concerns around its commercial plane segment...

"They have armies of lobbyists," Musk wrote in response to an X user who wondered why Boeing is awarded big contracts from the government despite the issues flagged with its passenger flight segment.

"Not sure why Boeing (given their track record with passenger flights) is given such contracts when SpaceX (given their track record with launches) is just vastly superior," Dhaval Shroff wrote. Shroff is also an employee at Musk's Tesla.

The comments on Boeing's alleged incompetence relative to SpaceX come amid safety issues plaguing its commercial airplane segment and technical issues identified with its Starliner spacecraft.

Boeing launched its Starliner spacecraft in early June with two astronauts – Sunita Williams and Butch Wilmore. Though they were initially estimated to return on June 14, the return dates have been delayed time and again owing to issues of helium system leaks and thruster performance identified with the Starliner spacecraft while docking with the International Space Station (ISS.)

NASA is currently trying to study the risks associated with these issues before returning the astronauts...

SpaceX sent its first crewed mission to the ISS in 2020 on its Dragon spacecraft and has since then undertaken multiple missions, overtaking its traditional rival.

(Excerpt) Read more at finance.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Travel
KEYWORDS: ananashraf; boeing; butchwilmore; dhavalshroff; elizabethhowell; elonmusk; faa; iss; lemon; nasa; spacex; starliner; stevestich; suniwilliams
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To: hopespringseternal

As Jesus said, “Man does not live by bread alone.”

A vigorous corporate culture depends upon unquantifiable intangibles, such as a vision and passion for excellence.


21 posted on 07/31/2024 6:52:27 AM PDT by TomEd (Her şey hazır! Buyrun, şölene!)
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To: SunkenCiv

How dare Musk expose the dirty politics of Boeing/the government!


22 posted on 07/31/2024 6:53:41 AM PDT by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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To: SunkenCiv

For years i heard about this “Starliner”.
Never looked at a picture of it.
Just a few months ago I actually looked.
Holy Crap!!!!
They pulled the prints from the old apollo command module and updated them, and they still can’t get it right!!!


23 posted on 07/31/2024 6:56:31 AM PDT by joe fonebone (And the people said NO! The End)
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To: SunkenCiv

One factor not being discussed in the “mainstream” media is that Starliner’s internal batteries will be dead in a few weeks (sometime in early September), and once that happens it will become a useless brick. I’ve been firmly convinced all along that the two astronauts will have to be brought back some other way, and that Starliner will be released to burn up in the atmosphere. I just hope that NASA finally swallows its pride and tasks SpaceX with rescuing them so that both NASA and Boeing have to suffer the humiliation they so richly deserve. I think not wanting to admit failure is the primary reason why they keep futilely digging in this pile of horse dung hoping to find a pony somewhere within it.


24 posted on 07/31/2024 7:06:31 AM PDT by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: noiseman; joe fonebone
I think it's built to do a last second propulsive landing on dry land, which would be foolhardy to try now with passengers. There's no way SpaceX won't be giving them the ride home.

25 posted on 07/31/2024 7:32:48 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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26 posted on 07/31/2024 8:15:37 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: logi_cal869
When SpaceX brings the stranded home, it's going to be devastating.

If Boeing kills them on the way home, it will be exponentially more devastating!

27 posted on 07/31/2024 8:47:26 AM PDT by Theophilus (covfefe)
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To: butlerweave

NASA loves to throw money away


In that vein, the Griffin lunar mission was tasked with many things, but its primary reason was tpo deliverr the Vulcan lander to the Lunar south pole to look for ice and other minerals.

But because the over all price tag rose from 250 million to near 500 million, the Vulcan was canceled. But NASA still plans to use the Vulcan instruments on other lunar projects.

And not to let the Griffin mission go to waste, they plan to use it as a technology demonstrator with a dummy payload - usually a cement block.

So NASA has spent near 500 million to land a brick on the moon.

Meanwhile the Chinese have two successful; landings on the dark side - something that NASA has not attempted and probably can’t do.


28 posted on 07/31/2024 9:46:26 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: noiseman

“One factor not being discussed in the “mainstream” media is that Starliner’s internal batteries will be dead in a few weeks (sometime in early September), and once that happens it will become a useless brick.”

Yup—this is classic “kicking the can down the road” decision-making.

It sounds like nobody in Boeing has the authority and guts to make a decision and they are just stalling.


29 posted on 07/31/2024 9:49:07 AM PDT by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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To: Blennos
The dragon was originally designed to carry seven people to and from orbit, but currently carries four. The next launch is set for
30 posted on 07/31/2024 9:50:06 AM PDT by jmcenanly (You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life.” ― Winston)
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To: jmcenanly

Crew 9. August 18th. Maybe the two stranded astronauts could return with this capsule?

https://www.spacelaunchschedule.com/launch/falcon-9-block-5-crew-9/


31 posted on 07/31/2024 10:13:19 AM PDT by Blennos ( Byaasearepeat itnbelow.)
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