Posted on 07/25/2024 11:11:22 AM PDT by ransomnote
ransomnote I watched a video about the Dem party in disarray, with Alex Christoforou and Alexander Mercouris of The Duran and made some quick notes on the content about 2 days ago.
I think their theories create the most plausible and interesting description I've found of the musical-chairs scuffle taking place in the Dem party as they tussle over the selection of their candidate for the 2024 election.
I initially posted my notes on the first 11 minutes of the video in a comment to FR (Part 1). I went back to make notes on the rest of the video because I found it interesting (Part 2).
Sidenote: I've consistently found Mercouris very helpful in understanding the proxy war in the Ukraine.
Democratic Party factional war (33 minute YOUTUBE video)
PART 1~~~~~~~~~~~
Christoforou:
Support for Kamala includes:
Most democrats, although not enthusiastically
Soros
Clintons - after reports they were initially supporting Biden over Kamala, now support Kamala
Pelosi? Hasn't endorsed
Obama? Hasn't endorsed
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Mercouris - believes Obama and Pelosi understand Kamala has major problems running against Trump
Biden wasn't forced to step down because he was incapable, infirm, and the bad debate with Trump
Biden's polling numbers showed he would be defeated running against Trump. Everything now taking place is about stopping Trump from winning the presidency, and/or preventing a republican route of the 2024 election.
People who want Biden to step down aren't doing so because he's 'not all there' because Biden has never been 'all there' throughout his presidency. It's because Biden would lose in November.
Having gotten rid of one loser, the Dems get another person they believe is another loser (Kamala).
Mercouris believes that Kamala is the only obvious, natural, realistic option. But with Kamala, the Dems will still lose in November, just as badly as if they would have if they kept Biden.Mercouris believes Obama and Pelosi want to hold back their endorsement because they hope that there will be an open convention and someone 'rather more convincing' will come forward (Gretchen in Michigan, Newsom in California, Pritzler in Illinois etc.)
The problem is that none of those people is going to come forward. None of them want to lose an election against Donald Trump. Therefore, all the alternatives are coming out and endorsing Kamala Harris, because better Kamala Harris than them. That is their calculation.
So Obama, and Pelosi and others who were the arch plotters behind the coup that brought Biden down know that Kamala Harris is not the ideal replacement for Biden. They are going to be left with her (Kamala) because there is no one else.
The very fact that Obama plotted to have Biden removed automatically meant that the the rival faction would want Biden to stay. Now that Biden is gone, that same faction, the Clintons, has united behind Kamala Harris because that's there way of keeping Obama's influence over the democratic party at bay. So we have a factional war, between the Clinton faction and the Obama faction, and we also have a fundamental problem with the election in November.
But Mercouris says, one way or another, we're going to get Kamala Harris as the Democrat candidate. Obama, Pelosi, and apparently Biden himself all believe that Kamala will lose in November, and lose badly.
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Christoforou: Obama played his cards well here. Even though he was the person orchestrating the removal of Biden, Obama has not come out and endorsed Kamala. Even though Obama was the man behind the curtain, it was a smart move for him to stand back and let everyone put their cards on the table, to get everyone to endorse Kamala, even the Clintons to endorse Kamala. He says he believes Kamala is much closer to the Obama circle than she is to the Clinton's Democrat family or clan.
Obama doesn't endorse anybody and instead calls for party unity. The New York Times said Obama is playing the part of the elder statesman and 'doesn't want to put his thumb on the scale of democracy', but that it doesn't mean Obama doesn't support Kamala Harris. The NYT insists that on the contrary, Obama doesn't want to get in the way of the democratic process, he wants to rise above it. Christoforou says, "To me, this is classic Obama, isn't it? Classic, textbook Obama, how he operates."
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Mercouris -"he's being the manipulative, guileful, intriguer that he always is. He always is there behind the curtain. I once called him President Macavity - the poem by TS Eliot, the evil cat - the criminal mastermind, he commits these crimes but the point about Macavity is he's never there. That's exactly what Obama is (ransomnote: I looked up Macavity in Wiki here). That's exactly how he functions.
PART 2~~~~~~~~~~~
Alexander Mercouris:
There's war with Syria.
There's a coup in Ukraine.
There's all sorts of things going wrong in the world, but you know Obama wasn't really involved, he wasn't involved in the Libyan war - it was all Hillary (Mercouris is smiling throughout this part, poking fun at Obama's ability to stay behind the curtain). Obama always gets other people to do things, or at least to appear to do things, even whilst he's in the background pulling all the strings himself.
Obama knows Kamala Harris is going to crash in November and he'll be the person there to pick up the pieces, play the part of the impartial elder statesman and unite the party, "I'm not directly implicated in this disaster, I didn't come out publicly to tell Biden to go, by the way."
Mercouris says we all know Obama was active in doing it but he got others to do all the work for him (e.g., George Clooney writing Op-eds for the New York Times).
Obama will sit back, let things play out, let Kamala Harris lose, and then step in and pick up the pieces of what's left of the Democratic party in November and take the party forward as he wants to, perhaps isolating the Clintons in the process.
"The thing to understand about Biden/Kamala team, there was clearly a deal." Back in 2020, there was clearly a deal done, the Clintons were backing Biden, Obama was not so sure. To balance the ticket Kamala was brought in to balance the ticket because she's more aligned with Obama than she is with the Clintons. Now he won't endorse Kamala because he doesn't want to be tainted by her loss in November.
People who talk that way, elder statesman, rise above party etc. - those are the ones to be most careful of. They are the most treacherous. The most guileful, the most deceitful, manipulative. "This is an iron rule of politics, take it from me as a grizzled veteran," people who present themselves that way are absolutely not to be trusted.
Alex Christoforou:
And Obama got the Clintons to endorse Kamala, 24 hrs after the news reported the Clintons were backing Biden, the Clintons come out endorse Kamala. Obama played this very well, he can sit back and watch this all unfold. If things go poorly for Kamala, Obama can say he supported her (but did not endorse her) and he supported Joe and he supported the Dem party because he wants them to be unified.
The question of Kamala Harris - what should the Dem party do?
Accept the loss in '24 but try to get a win in Congress, but plan for 2028?
Should they allow Kamala to run? Should her vice president be a person who can take on Vance in 2028? Try to get an electoral win either in the house or the senate, and position yourself for 2028?
Alexander Mercouris:
They will have to accept Kamala and they should forget all these ideas about special primaries, which look like a fix anyway. Kamala is the obvious person to take over and they should keep the disruption as limited as possible. It's already harmed the process - having to dump your leader this close to November. Don't make things any more chaotic, disorganized, complicated. Try to get everyone to back Kamala before the convention because the very last worst thing you want is a chaotic and disorganized convention, especially given the quality of the RNC convention.
The second thing they need to do is get Biden to step down quickly. It makes no sense to have Biden in office while Kamala runs - if Biden is not fit to run then he's not fit for office. If they don't address this quickly this issue will just fester, and it will grow.
Harris could then find herself increasingly responsible for an increasingly erratic decisions of Biden , who she is still tied to as Vice President. It really doesn't work. Harris and Dems should be pushing for Biden to go ASAP, ideally before the convention. It becomes more dangerous and politically toxic the longer they leave this situation unresolved.
Third - they need to locate Kamala's VP who is an effective counter to JD Vance, not just in 2028, because Kamala will not do well in 2024, but now as well because Vance is a good debater. Also, Kamala's VP will be the most likely Presidential Candidate in 2028.
Focus on the future, because this election is all but lost.
There will be a battle between Clintons and Obama-ites over the choice of Harris' VP.
Mercouris says the Dems have to think this through carefully and he doesn't know if the Dems have done so - this is already a 'car crash'.
Alex Christoforou:
From a geopolitical standpoint - this is a car crash. It's a car crash for the Dems, for the United States, we have a president whom everybody knows is not cognitively 'there' to run the country and his VP is the candidate for 2024 and she's tied to the president who can't run the country. They need to memory hole Biden and just tell the MSM not to talk about Biden anymore, forget about him. Position the Dem party for something in the future.
Christoforou thinks if Kamala doesn't win she'll be okay with that. She'll be the first female president and will have the perks of former president.
So that brings us to the geo political situation.
The other countries of the world have to be wondering who is running things, who is in charge of the nukes, who is in charge of military and foreign policy.
There's a proxy war in the Ukraine and effectively in a proxy war in the Middle East - the're ramping up a war in Iran and China.
They bet their countries on Joe Biden and even followed him into a proxy war with Russia.
Alexander Mercouris: (25:25 time stamp)
Mercouris reads the title of an article in the Financial Times, "Isolated Germany fears a second Trump term," and then he relays highlights of the content: The European center is disintegrating within Europe itself. Germany's government is weak. More countries in the EU are becoming fractious and are rebelling against the EU center (Germany).
France is in chaos. Leader of the left in France, who wants to be prime minister, has just made a statement that France should leave NATO.
Huge worry /uncertainty in Europe about this situation in the US (Biden/Harris) and they will want Kamala Harris to take over.
They (Europeans) are committed to the Ukraine project, globalist project, neo liberal project. They're nervous about the tariffs Trump is talking about. They want a strong Democrat party, ideally some form of the current administration re-elected in November. If they can't get that - they want a strong party to resist and delay parts of the Trump/Vance program. They don't want a feeble, weak president who has no political authority and lacks the cognitive abilities to run the country.
Joe Biden is not a lame duck president. A lame duck president is on the way out but still in charge. Maybe a lame duck can't get things through Congress, but a lame duck president can still do the managerial and administrative tasks required of a president.
Joe Biden cannot do that and he has no authority either. He's just been given a massive vote of no-confidence by the American political class. They've told him, 'you're so incapable you can't be president again' and yet he's still president.
So the Germans and the Europeans will also want him out. They want someone they can work with over the next few months. They want to insulate themselves from a coming Trump presidency.
The Germans are in absolute shock about the way things are falling apart in the US, they're just waking up now. But when they do, they will want Kamala Harris to take over. Where Germany goes, the rest of the EU will follow, and so will Britain. So the Europeans will want Biden to go.
It's completely different for the rest of the world - the Russians, the Chinese, the Indians - and other Asiatic states - they are going to think the Democratic party is a complete train wreck. They'll reason the Dems have just carried out a coup against their own leader who they (the world) now realize is incapable and doesn't know how to run things. The Dems are putting up someone in Biden's place who is widely seen as incompetent and a political lightweight, and who does not have the authority to run the United States either. She looks like she's only going to become President as a result of the intrigues conducted by others, including Obama. Mercouris notes that 'most of us didn't like' Obama when he was president. "Just saying, Obama was not popular with most of the world."
China/Russia/Chinese/India and other states will look at the US and see a political crisis.
This crisis is going to continue at least until November or longer. They'll don't want this crisis - they want someone to work with, and that will point to Donald Trump.
So most of the world will want Donald Trump elected. They won't care much about whether Biden or Kamala leads the next few weeks because those countries will see a chaotic, weak administration regardless of whether Biden or Harris leads. Their preference would still probably be Harris because she is compos mentis in a way Joe Biden is not.
So that sums up the view of most of the world.
Alex Christoforou:
Dangerous times.
We will wrap this video up.Dangerous times.
ransomnote: This Harris - obama snuggle picture below is the thumbnail image for the video. I just used the picture of the two men to show the names/faces of the speakers.
Mercouris believes that alternative candidates that Obama would want to run, won't do so because they don't want to lose an election to Donald Trump.
I was thinking at first that Obama has ways to force people to do what he wants (e.g., blackmail). But perhaps if Mercouris is correct, a candidate like Newsom can risk being exposed via blackmail by Obama or risk being exposed by President Trump. Both former presidents have knowledge of Newsom that would apall the public.
I don't believe that Germany is shocked, SHOCKED, by Biden's dementia - Old Corn Pop has been staggering around on the world stage, wandering off of photo ops, sniffing children and saying stupid things for years. But, just as our treasonous MSM/Elites portray themselves as shocked, so does Germany's. I guess it's just awkward that demented Biden is leading the Ukrainian war effort, giving almost 200 billion taypayer dollars to the Zelensky regime, which Biden publicly said was too corrupt at this time to gain NATO membership.
The 'leader of the free world' is demented and has blown $200 billion on a proxy war, and just promised to continue aid to the Ukraine on July 11. On July 12, Biden was the butt of jokes because he accidentally called Zelensky 'Putin'. Nothing to see here folks....
Thanks for the work. Blessings.
It will be an indication of a possible open convention if there continues to be polling about other democRAT candidates.
33-minute war. Obama will be in later today.
There is no way to know for sure, but being a lowly outside observer, I believe:
1. Obama himself is being “orchestrated” by a person or persons unknown.
2. The shortcut to minimize Democrat losses is to get rid of Trump. They may be rather bold about it. What is anyone going to do. We don’t have an Aquino or George Washington to rally behind. There’s no superpower who will help regular Americans, as they would rather see us in turmoil, or for the bad guys to win.
I very recently wandered upon these guys and enjoy their distillation of current events
I agree with you. I believe Obama himself is a Deep State puppet of more powerful enemies.
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