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VANITY Reality Questions re Prez Election Dem Candidate
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Posted on 07/19/2024 11:03:13 AM PDT by mbarker12474

Which of the Republican controlled states will remove Biden from the ballot?

Does Biden stepping down matter at all?

Of what relevance is a current VP assuming the duties of President?

Is the DEATH of the NOMINEE (not the current President per se) the only possible way to get some new NOMINEE on the ballot of all 50 states?


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KEYWORDS: candidate; nominee; replacement; states
Which of the Republican controlled states will remove Biden from the ballot?

Does Biden stepping down matter at all?

Of what relevance is a current VP assuming the duties of President?

Is the DEATH of the NOMINEE (not the current President per se) the only possible way to get some new NOMINEE on the ballot of all 50 states?

1 posted on 07/19/2024 11:03:13 AM PDT by mbarker12474
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To: mbarker12474
I don't recall anything in the Constitution, federal law, or state law that requires that a Democrat candidate MUST appear on ballots.

If the party chooses to run a candidate who's not healthy enough to survive the gauntlet of a campaign, that's on them.

I know that accidents happen and that last-minute deaths can happen, but running a candidate is not a right of the party that must be accommodated at all cost.

In 2024, the Democrats chose poorly.

-PJ

2 posted on 07/19/2024 11:07:37 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: mbarker12474
Which of the Republican controlled states will remove Biden from the ballot?

Good question. I haven't thought about each state's deadlines for the general election to know who to print on the ballots.

3 posted on 07/19/2024 11:08:51 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1 Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: mbarker12474

Is Biden on the ballot anywhere yet?

If he has not been officially nominated by the Dems yet how would he be on a ballot anywhere?


4 posted on 07/19/2024 11:13:24 AM PDT by JSM_Liberty
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To: mbarker12474

the ballots have a deadline to be printed.

if the deadline is not met, the ballots will be printed without the candidates name...

it is easy to have a candidate by the deadline... not the state’s fault if the party doesn’t have one.


5 posted on 07/19/2024 11:14:13 AM PDT by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world or something )
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To: teeman8r

I think Wisconsin is the problem for Biden, here is a summary. But now the Wisconsin Supreme court is controlled by liberals so they can probably just change the laws, how convenient.
https://www.wisconsinrightnow.com/joe-biden-replaced-wisconsin/


6 posted on 07/19/2024 11:19:37 AM PDT by brookwood (Fossil Fuels Are Climate-Affirming)
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To: mbarker12474

Is this a drunken FReeper post?
If so, I’m gonna follow it.


7 posted on 07/19/2024 11:21:50 AM PDT by lefty-lie-spy (Stay Metal)
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To: mbarker12474
He's not the candidate until after the convention. The printing deadline and procedure is a state issue, they're all different. If he drops out after a states deadline the state could always change it's law. Remember you're voting for electors, not the candidate. If he's dropped too late, the "Biden" electors can vote for a different candidate. Presumably Democrat electors would vote for the Democrat replacement candidate, but they could vote for someone else.

How late would be too late to replace Biden on the November ballot?

8 posted on 07/19/2024 11:22:32 AM PDT by SJackson (Lot of people put my grandpa through hell, and he’s still standing, Kai Trump)
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To: lefty-lie-spy

LOL!


9 posted on 07/19/2024 11:23:01 AM PDT by right way right (“May we remain sober over mere men, for God really is our only true hope”)
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To: brookwood

Wisconsin’s deadline is September 3, so they’ll have time after the convention. Since Ohio changed their law from early August, all 50 states, or is it 58, I forget, have post convention dates.


10 posted on 07/19/2024 11:25:24 AM PDT by SJackson (Lot of people put my grandpa through hell, and he’s still standing, Kai Trump)
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To: mbarker12474

He isn’t the nominee yet because the convention hasn’t happened. Which means he isn’t on any ballots. So prior to that any switch has no challenges on that front. Even after the fact remember technically we don’t vote for candidates we vote for electors. So if he dropped out in October electors could just be instructed to vote for whoever the Dems say they’re replacing him with. It’s really not that challenging. I don’t know why people are acting like this would be huge and hard. Pre convention it’s nothing, post convention it’s Wellstone times 50.


11 posted on 07/19/2024 11:28:09 AM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: discostu
In the 1860 election Lincoln (and others) had to distribute their own "ballots" because there were no statewide standard ballots that were sent to all the voters. Each candidate printed their own lists of Electors (because the ordinary citizen didn't necessarily know the names of the Electors), and the people voted those "ballots" at the polls.

-PJ

12 posted on 07/19/2024 11:37:21 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: mbarker12474

I generaly phrase your question a little diffrently.

Does a President/Party Nominee have to resign as President in order to withdraw as Nominee?

It seems like he does.

If he doesn’t, don’t the party rules require (or at least strongly pressure) delegates to honor their roles in the party?

If the President resigns, then the Vice-President would seem to step into both roles.

If the party convention starts with the Vice-President elevated to the Presidency, isn’t there a certain floor fight between Democrate factions?

With only weeks between floor fight and the start of mail-in voting, aren’t the Democrats just better off sucking it up and sticking with their Primary-winning Nominee?

Your question is about complying with laws that were designed for this very situation. State laws and Party Rules are all set up to prevent an intra-party coup.


13 posted on 07/19/2024 11:46:31 AM PDT by 2manydegrees
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To: mbarker12474

Well, there have been dead people running for senators or governors, etc.
Generally, the party which runs a dead candidate will announce whom will they would put as replacement, if that person wins.
And, dead candidates won in some cases.

So even dead person cannot be replaced on the ballot, if they die within the statutory time before election.

Since Biden has not been nominated yet, all states will replace him now. But is he hangs on, and gets the nomination, then, he will remind on ballots, even if he resign or even die. Each state has statutory deadlines, which vary from state to state.
That’s the law!
Democrats twisted the law (see Torricelli) few times in past, but not that often.


14 posted on 07/19/2024 11:50:14 AM PDT by AZJeep
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To: 2manydegrees

No they definitely don’t. LBJ declined to run in ‘68 but finished his term.


15 posted on 07/19/2024 11:57:58 AM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: mbarker12474

I like threads with answers, not questions. Especially vanities.


16 posted on 07/19/2024 12:18:15 PM PDT by subterfuge (I'm a pure-blood!)
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To: mbarker12474

Questions re Prez Election Dem Candidate

Maybe they will give Obama a bleach job nobody will know huh Moe.


17 posted on 07/19/2024 12:49:24 PM PDT by Vaduz
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To: mbarker12474

There’s plenty of precedent for faithless electors. Now yes SCOTUS did rule that states could force electors to vote for the person to whom they are pledged. I’m sure they’ll test that ruling.


18 posted on 07/20/2024 4:46:34 PM PDT by scrabblehack
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