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NEW: Soon-to-be unmasked entities bet that President Trump’s $DJT stock would plummet ONE DAY before the assassination attempt.
X ^ | Died suddenly

Posted on 07/17/2024 5:57:42 AM PDT by hardspunned

Shorts against the Truth Social stock more than doubled from July 1 -July 12, meaning, people or large organizations were predicting that by Monday the stock would plummet, something that undoubtedly would have occurred had President Trump died in Pennsylvania.

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TOPICS: Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: 20010910; 202407; bidentrumpdebate; blackrock; djt; elgindu; elgindy; stocks; trump; trumpbidendebate; truthsocial; truthsocialstock
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To: piasa

Lawyer: Accused Man Knew of Attacks
(AP) ^ | SETH HETTENA
Posted on 5/24/2002, 4:03:26 PM by Dallas

SAN DIEGO —

An Egyptian-born financial analyst charged in a nationwide stock swindle may have known about the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks and tried to profit from them, a federal prosecutor said Friday.

Amr I. “Tony” Elgindy telephoned his broker on Sept. 10 and asked him to liquidate his children’s $300,000 trust account, Assistant U.S. Attorney Ken Breen told a federal judge at Elgindy’s detention hearing.

“He made a comment predicting the market would drop to 3,000” at a time when the Dow Jones stock index was at 9,600, Breen said. “Perhaps Mr. Elgindy had pre-knowledge of the Sept. 11 attacks. Instead of trying to report it, he tried to profit from it.”...


41 posted on 07/17/2024 6:59:28 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: hardspunned

Check Pelosi’s stock market activity.


42 posted on 07/17/2024 7:00:28 AM PDT by tiki (To)
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To: piasa

Just so happens that a stock trader with ties to two crooked and later incarcerated FBI agents and family links to the Democratic party shorted stocks the day before 9/11/2001, too.


That was my first thought, when I read this headline ... those who sickeningly profited off of 9/11.


43 posted on 07/17/2024 7:07:16 AM PDT by Jane Long (The role of the GOP: to write sharply-worded letters as America becomes a communist hell-hole.)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

Naked shorts which are very difficult to identify as it is dark groups, sometimes not on US soil, doing this


44 posted on 07/17/2024 7:08:32 AM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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To: johniegrad

What is being described is planning a tragedy or Black Swan event and shorting stock that will fall when your tragedy occurs. Plan to assassinate Trump & bet a stock linked to him will fall when he is killed.
Congress also bets on stocks that will go up using information they alone are privy to. (Insider trading)


45 posted on 07/17/2024 7:08:53 AM PDT by JayGalt (DEI = Didn’t Earn It)
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To: hardspunned

Any way to find out whose accounts those were?


46 posted on 07/17/2024 7:13:58 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (Either ‘the Deep State destroys America, or we destroy the Deep State.’ --Donald Trump)
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To: Biblebelter

I have had great admiration for Musk for quite a few years now. He is an honorable man. He speaks candidly. As you rightly say, his acquisition of (Twitter) X may have saved the rapidly vanishing freedom of speech in this country.

Musk (as Trump) could have easily stayed completely out of politics, enjoying his billions and having fun with SpaceX and Tesla. But he chose to get involved. And he is openly supporting truth, justice and the American Way (to coin a phrase). A great man.


47 posted on 07/17/2024 7:40:41 AM PDT by Blennos ( Byaasearepeat itnbelow.)
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To: Rastus

lol, I see what you did there.


48 posted on 07/17/2024 8:01:18 AM PDT by wildcard_redneck (He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.)
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To: hardspunned

It could just be that they are betting that Trump will sell some shares when his lockout period ends.


49 posted on 07/17/2024 8:05:33 AM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: Romulus

but they’re not carrying a long position; they’re selling naked shorts and then the FTD’s for many of these shorts are off the charts. Days on end of failing to deliver shares


50 posted on 07/17/2024 8:35:26 AM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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To: Pearls Before Swine

and you’ll never know because the bulk of shorting is naked.


51 posted on 07/17/2024 8:37:24 AM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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To: monkeyshine

no. Trump will not sell any meaningful amount as he will never jeopardize his majority stakeholder position but, more importantly, it is VERY expensive to short; they would not do that months prior to the expiration.


52 posted on 07/17/2024 8:43:27 AM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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To: spacejunkie2001

Did they short the stock or buy puts? It’s been volatile. It doesn’t make money. Earnings report should be out in August. I’m just suggesting alternate theories other than inside job stuff.


53 posted on 07/17/2024 8:54:39 AM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: brownsfan; BroJoeK; x; jeffersondem; FLT-bird
Lies, gaslighting, cover ups, but following the money gives real answers.

This is what I always say. If people followed the money leading up to the Civil War, they would understand very well why we had a Civil War.

The money trails always tell you the truth of what happened.

54 posted on 07/17/2024 8:55:46 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: monkeyshine

the agenda driven forces are NAKED shorting this company to destroy it. The float is low in the scheme of things so they can’t find shares to borrow. you can buy naked puts too


55 posted on 07/17/2024 8:56:38 AM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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To: monkeyshine

but that doesn’t get clicks .


56 posted on 07/17/2024 8:59:01 AM PDT by bankwalker (Repeal the 19th ...)
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To: SecondAmendment
I remember watching "Hannity" when the idea of banning Congress from owning stock due to insider trading allegations , and Newt Gingrich went off like a stuck pig claiming that there was no reason for a ban like that.

I have long called for a law or an amendment that forbids congressmen and senators from increasing their wealth during their term of "service" beyond their congressional salaries.

We very much need to take out all profit motive for anyone serving in Congress or the Senate.

57 posted on 07/17/2024 8:59:11 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: hardspunned

My first though was that they shorted the stock beginning July 1, because they thought the Merchan would sentence Trump to prison on July 11. But on July 2, Merchan postponed the sentencing to September 24, and so that theory no longer flies.


58 posted on 07/17/2024 9:02:27 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: cgbg
Not only should members of Congress be banned from owning or trading stocks but... There families should be banned as well.. and no owning or trading by anybody for ten years after the Congress-critters leaves Congress.

Yes. Or income from any other sources. We need to make people understand that they will not be allowed to become rich while in Congress. We expect them to serve, not profit.

59 posted on 07/17/2024 9:02:32 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: spacejunkie2001

The naked shorting has to stop. It’s criminal that the prime brokerages permit it. The prime brokers do have an exemption though. If they are forced to book a large number of puts, they can go naked short to hedge their position. That’s one of the loopholes. And it is exploited. And it adds to volatility and creates artificial inventory because someone has to buy those naked shorts as a long position. The increase in supply obviously negatively impacts the share price.

There is certainly plenty of surface level evidence of possible conspiracy, or just plain negligence. The obvious one being leaving a rooftop within eyesight of the President without cover. Now we have this shorting, though I’d like to see (as you seem to be suggesting) how much shorting was going on not just the days before but the last weeks and months. My initial thought was Trump may sell some shares to cover potential legal fees, fines etc esp that absurd $400 million out of NY. Plus another apx $100 mil to Carrol. It’s absurd but there’s still a chance he can’t win on appeal. He also owes $175 million to the guy who put up the appeal bond.

I don’t know how many shares he’d have to sell to cover the $500 million, and whether he’d lose outright control of DJT. Though he may lose an outright controlling interest he would still likely be able to control the company with the proxy votes of other shareholders. Elon Musk only controls 13% of Tesla (his brother another large chunk from their solar city acquisitions). That said, the forces trying to short the stock may indeed be trying to deprive him of the ability to use those shares to raise capital. There is no other reason, except plain old greed. Which is also possible.


60 posted on 07/17/2024 9:30:01 AM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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