Posted on 07/12/2024 11:49:19 AM PDT by Morgana
We fought to overturn Roe to give the decision back to the voters.
It is now up to us to convince our fellow citizens to support life.
I think Republicans need to still say they value life, recognize that it is now a state issue (where they will fight for life there), and that at a federal level they want no federal funds or facilities used for abortions. I think that is where Trump is at today, plus he has consistently opposed late term and partial birth abortions, supports except for life of the mother, etc. I think these are good to state, as Republicans and Trump still have values, as president or as a party. Otherwise, washing our hands of the issue, means we now support whatever Democrats want to promote and legalize.
Fix where you live.
Central Planning is a disaster. Waiting for crumbs from DC when the solution is right in front of you is wrong. Here in Ohio they passed a Constitutional Amendment in haste. It’s up to us to fix it.
Hawley is mistaken. Abortion is no longer a federal issue. Trump gets it, and Hawley doesn’t.
The challenge is local, state, and national Republicans, then cannot be on opposite sides of the issues, otherwise a pro-life Republican at local and state must give up or change views to run nationally.
It’s not really that we disagree. It’s that tbe nuances don’t play well in soundbytes. If you were to make the election a national referendum on abortion Democrats would win 400 electoral votes. It’s not even to say thay it’s because the country supports it. You will die by the soundbyte. You have to be strategical in some cases. Does it serve life if you have 60 Democrats in the Senate? It does not.
Republicans now think they can completely abandon pro-lifers.
This is legally not true in those States that instituted more stringent protections. Dobbs did a lot for the 10th Amendment too.
I think where we are headed in the near term is that politicians will state their personal belief that life begins at conception and that the only exceptions should be for rape, incest, or to save the life of the mother.
However, they will support the will of the majority of the citizens they represent currently by voting for what the majority currently believe the line should be drawn while also working diligently to move that line to be in line with their personal beliefs.
Trump and the RNC are treading thin ice as they make abortion and fiscal responsibility non issues.
So, how does that work?
And Democrats have made it very clear they are passing legislation in Congress to make all abortion legal everywhere in the U.S. So now that Democrats are fighting as hard as they can, and Republicans have washed their hands of it, what do you think is going to happen?
Why doesn't the GOP admit they agree with the Dems on social issues?
Dobbs was one step forward.
Trump and the RNC ignoring the fact that abortion is a national hot button topic is one step back.
So called conservatives who yell “STATES RIGHTS” is another step back.
The Republican platform since the 1980s has articulated support for a constitutional amendment that would assert the sanctity and protection of human life, extending to unborn children. This is the first time in 40 years that the RNC has not explicitly endorsed a national ban on abortion in the platform.
Yes, it is a political hot potato. It is going to take time to figure out how to thread the needle on state and federal role on the matter. Giving pro-abortion folks a win on what was a pro-life win, is an odd and frustrating outcome.
The decision to give this back to the voters is and was wrong. No voter has been given the opportunity to fairly vote on this and they never will. Not a single unlimited abortion amendment has failed because the powers that be write the language to trick the people. Millions of innocent lives should not be slaughtered because the average citizen has no idea what is being voted on. Roberts for once was right. Overturning Roe has been a disaster. We were on the cusp of making abortion illegal with Dobbs. Alito wrote the worse opinion in SC history. Our right to live is not subject to the “elected representatives of the individual states” What no one states, the constitution IS SILENT to a right to life. It is merely implied, just like the SC found that there was an implied right to privacy and therefore justified abortion.
We worked at this for 50 years to get abortion bans down to 6 weeks which effectively bans all abortions. The incremental approach would have forced the SC to establish law via decree (not constitutional but neither is the right to life) which at that point abortion would have been illegal throughout the land. For 250 years we have lived with this concept that no one has the right to take our lives. It was and is merely a theory. Now, according to Alito, you can be put to death for any reason if approved by the “elected representatives of the states” Where there is no statute proscribing otherwise - anything is legal.
Roe was the 2nd worse decision in SC history and only surpassed as the 2nd worse by its first, its reversal.
Democrats love when Republicans fight over federal “pro life” bills because it helps the Democrats every time
It’s all or nothing with these Veruca Salts.
It’s far easier to work against abortion on the local level and then move on to help other states to support life than to try to eliminate abortion or regulate it on a national level.
Each success will spawn other successes until finally abortion is a thing of the past.
Exactly right. The Democrats are demonically fanatic about this. Where do you think all the pro-abortion money is going to go now that the fight has shifted to the states? They're going to bring out-of-state money to each state fight and knock out the pro-life movement one state at a time.
Meanwhile, local Republican politicians, not even having the backing of the national Party on this issue and with nowhere near the funding that these pro-death ghouls bring in, will not dare to say a peep about it.
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