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Why Are Employers Firing Remote Workers In 2024?
Forbes ^ | 07/03/2024 | Rachel Wells

Posted on 07/04/2024 6:27:42 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27

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To: ChicagoConservative27

The bottom line of all this is:

Technology is never a substitute for good management.

It is not about the work at home issue.


41 posted on 07/04/2024 7:44:08 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
40% of remote employees admit to taking time off without telling anyone.

I took time off in the office too.

And I still knocked it out of the park.

42 posted on 07/04/2024 7:45:27 AM PDT by Lazamataz (joesbucks is back. Let's remedy that! 😁)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

You are confusing being busy with being productive.

Our organization fired all the managers who could not understand the difference.


43 posted on 07/04/2024 7:47:47 AM PDT by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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To: Lazamataz
It is not taking time off that is the problem. It is the being able to do it without anyone seeing any drop in your output. Because you produce so little the needle barely moves when you stop nudging your mouse and go have a nap.
44 posted on 07/04/2024 7:51:13 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear ( Roses are red, Violets are blue, I love being on the government watch list, along with all of you.)
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To: redgolum

And if you can do that job from home, so can someone on the other side of the planet for a fraction of the cost.


45 posted on 07/04/2024 7:52:42 AM PDT by fso301
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To: cgbg
:yawn:

And I am sure you are now magically the most productive company in the world and there will be peaches and cream for everyone tomorrow.

46 posted on 07/04/2024 7:53:18 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear ( Roses are red, Violets are blue, I love being on the government watch list, along with all of you.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

You are worrying about micromanaging time instead of properly measuring productivity.

Is the purpose of the organization to make sure every employee is busy every minute?

That makes absolutely no sense—is a brutal morale killer—and is an attitude that would get you fired from most organizations.


47 posted on 07/04/2024 7:54:05 AM PDT by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

I would fire you in five minutes—but of course I would never hire you to begin with....


48 posted on 07/04/2024 7:55:31 AM PDT by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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To: FLT-bird

My breeder told me not to have my pup fixed until she was two years old, or to wait until after her second heat.


49 posted on 07/04/2024 8:00:44 AM PDT by Glennb51
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To: cgbg
I know you wouldn't. Because you have no power to hire or fire anyone.

All you can do is pretend to work and hope you are not found out.

50 posted on 07/04/2024 8:03:25 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear ( Roses are red, Violets are blue, I love being on the government watch list, along with all of you.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Lol—I am retired but was a subject matter expert in my day.

When folks like you appeared in the organization I would quickly notify senior management and get them fired.


51 posted on 07/04/2024 8:05:37 AM PDT by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

So much of it is personality. I worked remotely for years when my son was little, and when my company decided to stop remote work, I went into business for myself and made a lot more $. I am extremely self-motivated and focused and I do my best work when alone. My daughter in law and son are similar. My hubby and son are not this way - they thrive in group settings surrounded by people.

I’m guessing HR has a tough job figuring out who has the makeup to work remotely well. I’m sure not everyone is good at it. 🤷‍♀️


52 posted on 07/04/2024 8:08:15 AM PDT by LilFarmer
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To: PeterPrinciple

It’s not just about management.

Hubby just put it perfectly.

When you work remote you lose synergy.


53 posted on 07/04/2024 8:21:50 AM PDT by mewzilla (Never give up; never surrender!)
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To: mewzilla

When you work remote you lose synergy.


But there might be other things you gain. Look at the net. it is NEVER the technology it is the decision making (mgt) for the particular situation.

People tend to look at one data point of a complex system and think they understand it. Liberals are good at this, they look at c02, and think they can control climate.


54 posted on 07/04/2024 8:27:57 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: cgbg
Monitoring remote work requires competent managers. Dumb managers can’t do it.

I remember a highly paid DEI promotion asking my advice as to "How can I make sure they are working". This was in a law enforcement agency where 95% of the staff worked in the field. She had come from a pseudo enforcement agency which required the subjects of their investigations to come into the office (which many did not).

I told her that the field investigators were evaluated by their timely completion of investigations and their success in resolving matters short of litigation. The very conduct of those investigations could not be done in an office from 8AM to 5PM. Eventually she accepted the fact that she could not micro-manage her staff though her region's performance was always sub-par in short order!

55 posted on 07/04/2024 8:38:25 AM PDT by ExSES (the "bottom line")
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To: ExSES

Good example.

The Department needs to set goals on timeliness, quality and any other criteria they choose.

Then they should not care if an investigator spends too much time in the coffee shop.


56 posted on 07/04/2024 8:46:43 AM PDT by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

It just amazed me that so many work from home. Office work, paperwork. The people I know almost all do physical work: agriculture, construction, manufacturing, etc. So much paperwork to codify the actual production of real goods. I’m not knocking it; I just can’t figure it out.


57 posted on 07/04/2024 8:52:55 AM PDT by gloryblaze
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
If I could have run my business effectively from some place other than Houston or served my clients or been involved in the large projects as I was, I would have left long ago and would probably still be working instead of retired. I was an edge dweller and did work from home quite a lot but I was able to long commute when necessary and did notice a significant positive difference when I was present in an office. If everyone else was not in the office it wouldn't have mattered but I still think it would have been worse than face-to-face on some regular basis. Spontaneity and collaboration don't come as easily when dispersed.

After I made the break I'm not going back even if I wanted to. Out of sight and out of mind proved to be just as real as I ever suspected it would be. The changing of the guard did not help that one iota at all either.

It is possible to be a significant individual contributor or minor manager remotely but I can't see it for other functions. Even significant individual contributor problem solvers could have a hard time without presence. I have made very high powered dispersed teams work well in the past but it takes an effort to organize them in a joint effort.

To everything there is a season. Knowing when to leave can be the hardest thing of all to do right.

58 posted on 07/04/2024 9:03:20 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (The Government that got us in this mess is not the Government that can get us out of it.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

80/20 rule. 80% of employees are useless.

I am in manufacturing. Always have been. I don’t see how manufacturing could be done remotely. Even robots need an oil change once in a while.


59 posted on 07/04/2024 9:57:27 AM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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To: Brian Griffin
If your job can be done remotely, it can be done cheaper in Vietnam or India.

Companies already outsourced every job they could overseas starting decades ago. I deal with companies switching those overseas jobs back to workers in other states because the foreign workers don't have the skills and knowledge.

60 posted on 07/04/2024 10:13:24 AM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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