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Harsh Reality for Record Number of Computer Science Grads: Software Employment Has Peaked
The Average Joe ^ | 06/27/2024 | Noah Weidner

Posted on 06/28/2024 8:32:27 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 06/28/2024 8:32:27 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Since we have 500,000+ IT workers in the US looking for work...

when will the H-1bs be going home?


2 posted on 06/28/2024 8:35:12 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: SeekAndFind

bookmark.


3 posted on 06/28/2024 8:36:14 PM PDT by dadfly
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To: sten

Going home? We will import more than ever!


4 posted on 06/28/2024 8:40:06 PM PDT by TheDon (Resist the usurpers! Remember the J6 political prisoners!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Software is binary (sorry, not non-binary) and either 0 or 1.

So you need two employees, one “0” and one “1”.

And on a tangent, AI in Morse code is ._ and ..

Not much ‘diversity’, lots of dots and lots of short (two pulses) letters.


5 posted on 06/28/2024 8:57:39 PM PDT by Scrambler Bob (Running Rampant, and not endorsing nonsense; My pronoun is EXIT. And I am generally full of /S)
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To: sten
Correct, the H1bs need to go.

Now, the details are that there are some people in tech that have no tech skills, they are product managers and content managers, etc. Like those spoiled silicon valley women with their tik toks, showing off their free mocha lattes and free wine bar after work while having no skills other than to boss others around. Their jobs are going. The devs and engineers are going

6 posted on 06/28/2024 9:00:15 PM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: sten
when will the H-1bs be going home?

Very true. The law states that those jobs must go to qualified citizens before being given to foreigners.

7 posted on 06/28/2024 9:01:21 PM PDT by politicket
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There’s still plenty of opportunity in tech. IT security still has more holes that Swiss cheese. There’s going to be another space race and Cold War coming up too, with plenty of interesting problems that will need solving.


8 posted on 06/28/2024 9:01:31 PM PDT by The Duke (Not without incident.)
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To: SeekAndFind

AI can write programs, ergo bye-bye coding jobs.


9 posted on 06/28/2024 9:09:36 PM PDT by NetAddicted (MAGA2024)
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Joe has plenty of minimum wage jobs.

People quit them often and they’re counted as 5 or 6 new jobs.


10 posted on 06/28/2024 9:10:18 PM PDT by OakOak (Misinformation Campaign on your TV)
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I witness regression in the output from programmers and developers. It's like they never learned from the past. They're learning as they go and it shows. They violate established standards without even being aware of it. The newbies working for the developer don't know anything about any industry and have never developed a similar product. (This is akin to contractors hiring unskilled illegal aliens that's become so rampant). For IT, it's the inevitable outcome of the program the U.S. government implemented starting 25 years ago to suppress wages within the IT industry.

I deal with companies putting a hold on rollouts and developments. It's not because of the costs but because so many key people have retired since the Scamdemic began and their replacements are missing or are significantly less capable. The replacements are unable to make decisions because they're in so far over their head. First decision - let's hold off on upgrading or replacing these systems "until we get our arms around what we're dealing with".

I see companies holding onto relics of in-house programs because they can't get viable bids for replacing it. I especially see it in small companies where the owners are planning on closing shop if the economy takes a further dip. Why fix up the car if you're running it until it fails completely?

One disturbing trend I've seen is the increase in the number of complete snake oil salesmen (and saleswomen) among small software firms, where after several years of development, the programs completely miss the mark. The client doesn't have any employees who know enough about software and programming so the company is completely dependent on outsourced developers. The employees at the company don't know what they need, are data illiterate, and more and more don't even know anything about computers.

11 posted on 06/28/2024 9:11:29 PM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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Harsh Reality for Record Number of Computer Science Grads: Software Employment Has Peaked

Yup, I believe this - within 20 years most software development will consist of product managers composing user stories and feeding them to AI software which will churn out decently coded solutions. Refinement iterations will occur, and maybe some manual fine tuning, but that's it. The era of human software development is coming to an end.
12 posted on 06/28/2024 9:14:30 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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I thought that happened 15 years ago when they started importing H1Bs to replace Americans.


13 posted on 06/28/2024 9:15:31 PM PDT by VTenigma (Conspiracy theory is the new "spoiler alert")
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and when AI writes better code faster than the churn coming out of coding the mills today???


14 posted on 06/28/2024 9:18:32 PM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: SeekAndFind

Software development is part of a bigger job. Now basically you’d better be a Subject Matter Expert who codes.


15 posted on 06/28/2024 9:21:54 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: NetAddicted

They can write programs, but who will make sure the programs will work and be secure?


16 posted on 06/28/2024 9:22:46 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: SeekAndFind

my son lost his internet support job just before Christmas...his whole department....nothing as of yet..


17 posted on 06/28/2024 9:24:52 PM PDT by cherry
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I started out on IBM 360/30 in the basement of the Empire State building and it was good while it lasted kids. Now AI can build the code on it’s own.


18 posted on 06/28/2024 9:26:19 PM PDT by Harpotoo (Being a socialist is a lot easier than having to WORK like the rest of US:-))
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To: SeekAndFind

AI is just stupidity at the speed of light.


19 posted on 06/28/2024 9:28:14 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer” )
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To: SeekAndFind

Someone has forgotten to tell the 10 recruiters that contact me every weekday with offers of software development jobs.


20 posted on 06/28/2024 9:28:29 PM PDT by FrankRizzo890
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