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How much a single person needs to earn to live alone in the 25 largest U.S. cities
CNBC (Business News) ^ | 22 June 2024 | Mike Winters

Posted on 06/22/2024 10:05:09 AM PDT by zeestephen

The money covers a single person's basic expenses like housing in a studio apartment, food, health care, and transportation...San Francisco: $35.98 - New York: $33.58 - Seattle: $31.93 - Washington, DC: $28.89 - Los Angeles: $26.81 - Detroit: $19.70

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To: Menehune56
Married couples have an advantage, but clearly two minimum wage people together still cannot afford to live in most of these cities.

I am sure there is a non-political formula to determine the necessary minimum wage for any community or region and the minimum wage should be automatically set accordingly. Yes, if it turns out to be $25 per hour, so be it. Things will balance out in the long run. We need to do this for our youth, for our nation. Otherwise, we keep growing a larger and larger number of people that cannot support themselves legally, who won't have a good future, who will become a lifelong drag on the nation.

21 posted on 06/22/2024 10:30:54 AM PDT by Reno89519 (Trump Please Build the Wall, And Deport Them All. No amnesty for anyone. End H1B!)
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To: zeestephen

Liberals need to get it through their fat heads that the "minimum wage" was never intended to be a "living wage". "Minimum wage" is for kids just learning how to do "adulting" and for retirees who have had enough "adulting" but want to continue being productive. If you want more in life, aspire to do more than just earn "minimum wage", and learn how to manage your income while earning it.


22 posted on 06/22/2024 10:31:06 AM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: zeestephen

Roommates. No reason to pay rent all by yourself.


23 posted on 06/22/2024 10:32:01 AM PDT by married21 (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: Zack Attack

Hello from Small town, NC

yes these listed are all cities. Move out to the boonies, or small town. Country folks tend to help one another when needed.


24 posted on 06/22/2024 10:34:02 AM PDT by WVNan
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To: Reno89519

“at that these wages, a lot of their costs are shifted to the taxpayer to subsidize housing, insurance, and food.”

Are you high?

At these wages, you get NOTHING from Goobermint.
Gotta be an illegal and you get everything, free, paid by the folks earning those wages.


25 posted on 06/22/2024 10:34:15 AM PDT by Macoozie (Roll MAGA, roll!)
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To: TalBlack
The NYC estimate looks like utter nonsense to me.

I note that the CNBC is very careful to post the hourly wage to live alone in close juxtaposition with the local minimum wage.

Pure propaganda to agitate for higher minimum wages.

Totally ignoring the fact that when one is priced out of the market, their wages are ZERO!

26 posted on 06/22/2024 10:39:35 AM PDT by null and void (“No matter how cynical you become, it’s never enough to keep up”. ~ Lily Tomlin)
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To: politicket

“Minimum wage is not, and never was, supposed to indicate a livable wage.

Instead - it was meant as a wage to introduce new workers to the workforce when they didn’t have a lot of value to offer.”

Actually, that is not true.

Minimum wage was and is a communist attempt at controlling commerce. Instead, it outlaws any labor not worth the minimum wage.


27 posted on 06/22/2024 10:39:37 AM PDT by CodeToad (Rule #1: The elites want you dead.)
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To: Reno89519

“When it takes on average around $25 an hour to live without handouts, then the minimum wage should be $25.”

When the minimum wage is set for a single person “to live without handouts” in an expensive area, then it becomes desirable for say two people to rent a housing unit in that so the both of them can split the expensive area differential.

The differentials are now so high that millions of people from all over the world are flocking towards expensive areas such as Los Angeles, NYC, London, etc.

The solution is to lower the differentials. Possibly the best way to do this is to shut down airports within say 50 miles of the suburbs of expensive cities.


28 posted on 06/22/2024 10:40:07 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Brian Griffin

Ah, but Lamont “worked”. The Meathead on the other hand, was purely a freeloader. Interesting that liberal Lear presented it that way….apparently he knew his audience.


29 posted on 06/22/2024 10:41:33 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: zeestephen

No expectation that a minimum wage worker could expect to live solo.

And fast food in Dallas pays double digit. Basing the study on statutory minimums instead of actual pay expectations is intellectually dishonest.

The biggest problem with low end workers isn’t the pay, it’s the getting jacked around on schedules and hours. Of course, the flip side of the scheduling equation is the lack of reliability of many workers. So there’s fault on both sides.


30 posted on 06/22/2024 10:42:33 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: Reno89519

There is no way to “central plan” our way out of the mess the central planners created in the first place.


31 posted on 06/22/2024 10:45:30 AM PDT by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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To: zeestephen

No way to plan for a future for these kids.

They want ‘em poor and enslaved.


32 posted on 06/22/2024 10:47:34 AM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: Vigilanteman
If you are an illegal alien, then most of these expenses are covered by the hosts.

Well, it is a host-parasite relationship!

33 posted on 06/22/2024 10:51:08 AM PDT by null and void (“No matter how cynical you become, it’s never enough to keep up”. ~ Lily Tomlin)
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To: zeestephen

what pisses me off about these kind of articles is they ignore Honolulu and Anchorage.
They are usually written by someone working from home that doesn’t have a clue.
So they are useless.
I’ve lived near a few of the listed cites and I know
how much it costs to live there. If you are inventive and are willing to cut expectations you can live much cheaper.
Not everybody lives like Ozzie and Harriet.
I’ve lived in old boats, in a black slum, you name it.


34 posted on 06/22/2024 10:55:23 AM PDT by rellic (rough)
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To: zeestephen

Does the US Constitution give a person the ‘right’ to live where they want???

If a person does not have the skills/earnings to live in a high priced area, then that person may want to consider moving to a low-cost area.

I am tired of the whining by people who want to live in expensive cities but do not want to pay the price.


35 posted on 06/22/2024 10:56:07 AM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: JonPreston

At least triple them. Rent for a decent studio in NYC is 3500.00 a month and you need to have at least 400K in the bank to qualify. I know, I had to sign for my daughter to live in Brooklyn. To co-sign I had to prove I had over 400K in cash in the bank And she had to clean the apartment just to move in. And she had to sign a 5 year lease.


36 posted on 06/22/2024 10:56:43 AM PDT by realcleanguy (quickly things are falling apart, now that the )
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To: zeestephen

Quotes:

On Saturday, June 25, 1938, to avoid pocket vetoes 9 days after Congress had adjourned, President Franklin D. Roosevelt signed 121 bills. Among these bills was a landmark law in the Nation’s social and economic development — Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938 (FLSA). Against a history of judicial opposition, the depression-born FLSA had survived, not unscathed, more than a year of Congressional altercation. In its final form, the act applied to industries whose combined employment represented only about one-fifth of the labor force. In these industries, it banned oppressive child labor and set the minimum hourly wage at 25 cents, and the maximum workweek at 44 hours.

President Roosevelt....: “Do not let any calamity-howling executive with an income of $1,000 a day, ...tell you...that a wage of $11 a week is going to have a disastrous effect on all American industry.”

As an early step of the NRA, Roosevelt promulgated a President’s Reemployment Agreement “to raise wages, create employment, and thus restore business.” Employers signed more than 2.3 million agreements, covering 16.3 million employees. Signers agreed to a workweek between 35 and 40 hours and a minimum wage of $12 to $15 a week and undertook, with some exceptions, not to employ youths under 16 years of age. Employers who signed the agreement displayed a “badge of honor,” a blue eagle over the motto “We do our part.” Patriotic Americans were expected to buy only from “Blue Eagle” business concerns.

In the meantime, various industries developed more complete codes. The Cotton Textile Code was the first of these and one of the most important. It provided for a 40-hour workweek, set a minimum weekly wage of $13 in the North and $12 in the South, and abolished child labor. The President said this code made him “happier than any other one thing...since I have come to Washington, for the code abolished child labor in the textile industry.” He added: “After years of fruitless effort and discussion, this ancient atrocity went out in a day.”

the Supreme Court, in a series of decisions, invalidated both State and Federal labor laws. Most notorious was the 1936 case of Joseph Tipaldo. The manager of a Brooklyn, N.Y., laundry, Tipaldo had been paying nine laundry women only $10 a week, in violation of the New York State minimum wage law. When forced to pay his workers $14.88, Tipaldo coerced them to kick back the difference. When Tipaldo was jailed on charges of violating the State law, forgery, and conspiracy, his lawyers sought a writ of habeas corpus on grounds the New York law was unconstitutional. The Supreme Court, by a 5-to-4 majority voided the law as a violation of liberty of contract.

Roosevelt further voiced his disappointment with the Court at the victory dinner for his second inauguration, saying if the “three-horse team [of the executive, legislative, and judicial branches] pulls as one, the field will be ploughed,” but that the field will not be ploughed if one horse lies down in the traces or plunges off in another direction.”

However, Roosevelt’s metaphorical maverick fell in step. On “White Monday,” March 29, 1937, the Court reversed its course when it decided the case of West Coast Hotel Company v. Parrish. Elsie Parrish, a former chambermaid at the Cascadian Hotel in Wenatchee, Wash., sued for $216.19 in back wages, charging that the hotel had paid her less than the State minimum wage. In an unexpected turn-around, Justice Owen Roberts voted with the four-man liberal minority to uphold the Washington minimum wage law.

As other close decisions continued to validate social and economic legislation, support for Roosevelt’s Court “reorganization” faded. Meanwhile, Justice Roberts felt called upon to deny that he had switched sides to ward off Roosevelt’s court-packing plan. He claimed valid legal distinctions between the Tipaldo case and the Parrish case. Nevertheless, many historians subscribe to the contemporary view of Robert’s vote, that “a switch in time saved nine.”

https://www.dol.gov/general/aboutdol/history/flsa1938


37 posted on 06/22/2024 10:57:18 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Reno89519

My daughter makes 65.00 an hour in Brooklyn and it’s still not enough.


38 posted on 06/22/2024 10:57:56 AM PDT by realcleanguy (quickly things are falling apart, now that the )
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To: realcleanguy

“””My daughter makes 65.00 an hour in Brooklyn and it’s still not enough.””””


Could the invasion of millions of illegals be a root cause of why housing is so expensive in Brooklyn?


39 posted on 06/22/2024 11:05:57 AM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: realcleanguy

“At least triple them. Rent for a decent studio in NYC is 3500.00 a month and you need to have at least 400K in the bank to qualify. I know, I had to sign for my daughter to live in Brooklyn. To co-sign I had to prove I had over 400K in cash in the bank And she had to clean the apartment just to move in. And she had to sign a 5 year lease.”

The both of you agreed to cough up $210,000($3,500x5x12). You had $400,000.

Could you not have used $250,000 of that $400,000 to buy a nice house in a nice town and let her pay you a fair return on your $250,000?

Could you not have used $150,000 of that $400,000 to buy a OK house in an OK town and let her pay you a fair return on your $150,000?

As for “had to”, only a small percentage of Americans have such a capability.


40 posted on 06/22/2024 11:06:20 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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