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“This Is Gonna Get Us ALL Blown Up!” Jeffrey Sachs On Russian Invasion Video— 1/2 hour
Youtube ^ | 6/19/2024 | Piers Morgan

Posted on 06/20/2024 10:01:49 AM PDT by Phoenix8

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To: phil00071

What we are seeing of course is what we see so often— we have to make the best of a bad situation because it’s too late to do the right thing.


21 posted on 06/20/2024 12:23:21 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative. )
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To: buwaya
"Germany went off the deep end on “green” BS."

Yes they did. However Germany didn't blow up Nord Stream II, America did and torpedoed Germany's economy. Germany didn't impose sanctions on oil and gas that choked Germany out, America did. Given how crappy the U.S. treats its own citizens why did the Germans think that they would not get a dose of the same medicine? Also, Germany is NOT a sovereign country, they are a bitch proxy state, as past and recent history proves.

22 posted on 06/20/2024 12:56:18 PM PDT by wildcard_redneck (He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.)
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To: wildcard_redneck

Nordstream didn’t “torpedo” the German economy.

An exercise for you - do the work - what financial effect did the switch from Russian NG to LNG have? What effect did this, the provable financial difference, have on German GDP?

Dont just say things, prove them.

If Germany is a “bitch proxy state” then so is every country on earth. Thats a bizarre statement.


23 posted on 06/20/2024 1:05:00 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: buwaya

LNG is expensively liquified with refrigeration and delivered via ships, not pipelines and is inherently more expensive than a dedicated NG pipeline. Germany’s energy costs went up with LNG.


24 posted on 06/20/2024 1:16:47 PM PDT by wildcard_redneck (He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.)
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To: Phoenix8

bump for later


25 posted on 06/20/2024 1:19:54 PM PDT by SisterK (it's controlled demolition)
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To: wildcard_redneck

“Germany’s energy costs went up with LNG.”

Yes, but by how much, and how significant was that vis a vis its GDP?

Go figure it out.


26 posted on 06/20/2024 2:03:50 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: buwaya

You have said on this forum that you lived in the US for ~40 years and raised a family there. Not trying to bust your balls but I’m curious to know why you never got American citizenship during that time. Why didn’t you?


27 posted on 06/20/2024 3:20:43 PM PDT by Rocco DiPippo (Either the Deep State destroys America or we destroy the Deep State. -Donald Trump)
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To: buwaya

Unfortunately, I think he is right.

Still, it might not have been the best tactic: if your allies or proxies fear you, they will desert you in a conflict as soon as the going gets tough.

It is a cruel irony that you can enslave or annihilate someone (or a people), but you will never be able to force them to love, or merely to appreciate, you.


28 posted on 06/22/2024 5:11:10 AM PDT by Menes
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