Donalds suggests Black families were stronger during Jim Crow era

The Hill ^ | 6/5/2024 | 06/05/24 12:50 PM ET

[Jamestown1630]

I don’t equate the Civil Rights Movement with the ‘Great Society’ and the welfare state.

[Miami Rebel]

I met Moynihan and I admire him.

He recognized the failures of social engineering, but he did NOT propose that black Americans suffered from the demise of Jim Crow.

Donalds could have echoed Moynihan, but his linkage of the advent of civil rights to the decline of the black family was at best clumsy and insulting.

[dfwgator]

I don’t equate the Civil Rights Movement

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The problem was, the Communists controlled the movement, like they did every other “progressive” movement of the 20th Century.

[MinorityRepublican]

Rep. Byron Donalds (R-Fla.) suggested that Black families were better off during the Jim Crow era while speaking at a campaign event for former President Trump.

We used to have many Blacks playing baseball. It wasn't that long time ago that we had Ken Griffey Jr, Barry Bonds, etc playing Major League Baseball. I can't name one Black baseball player but I can name players from other races such as Mike Trout and Shohei Ohtani. If we have to name a Hispanic player, I can name Juan Soto but I don't think he's that famous.

[Fuzz]

Baseball? lol.

[Political Junkie Too]

As to the advancement of black Americans, the point made in the article is that most of it took place IN THE NORTHERN STATES, in other words, at a remove from the heart of Jim Crow America.

That's what happened. That was the point of the "Great Migration."

It wasn't so much Jim Crow laws than it was Reconstruction and the end of slavery. Now that African Americans were free to move around, they left the agricultural work of the south, moved north, and urbanized and industrialized their skills and opportunities.

As the article points out (don't just rely on my excerpt), they still faced discrimination and segregation, but even within those impediments they began to bloom culturally and socially because their opportunities were expanded by moving to areas with diverse employment opportunities which was lacking in the mostly farming south.

Many years ago, I posted a similar article that focused on the African-American family during this period, and how the black family and educational growth was strong during this period. I can't find it now because searching FR is extremely difficult and the major search engines de-indexed Free Republic a long time ago.

I'll see if I can find it, but it might take awhile.

-PJ

[Miami Rebel]

Thanks! I look forward to reading it.

[Responsibility2nd]

It was a politically obtuse way of making a point, and he should have known the mess it would cause. Jeffries had a heyday with it on the Floor, and many more people saw that than heard Donalds saying what he did in actual context.

I guess it did cause a mess. Jeffries and people like you are indeed having a heyday with it.

What a shame. I expected better of you. 

You, Miami Rebel and Stanne are the only ones having the vapors over what Donalds said. Everyone else has put some thought into this and support Donalds. And could not give a care what The Hill and other liberal toadies think.

[Jamestown1630]

'...the major search engines de-indexed Free Republic a long time ago.'

I noticed that I used to be able to find old posts with a few key words + Free Republic, on Google. Now I can't find much at all.

I've often wished that FR had some kind of internal search for that, but I don't know what kind of job that would require.

[Jamestown1630]

I haven’t noticed anyone having ‘vapors’.

But maybe some of us understand how politics actually works, and how easily a politician can shoot himself in the foot.

[Miami Rebel]

“Everyone else has put some thought into this and support Donalds.”

That would be the same “everyone” who jumped to support Noem until they stopped supporting Noem.

[stanne]

‘ I haven’t noticed anyone having ‘vapors’.

But maybe some of us understand how politics actually works, and how easily a politician can shoot himself in the foot.’

Yep.

For instance:

“Long-time political commentator Chris Matthews said Wednesday on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” that it was “very reasonable to assume” former President Donald Trump will become a dictator if elected.“

Wait til Joe Scarborough hears “Jim Crow”

As Tim Dillon says about us Long Islanders and how we exert our opinions. ‘Just watch’

[Wuli]

“One thing that also hurt black families was the northern migration as fathers left their families to go work in the big factories up north.”

Yes, But particularly in the Midwest, more than NY or Boston, that migration of young black men from the south exceeded the availble (and/or “union willing”) jobs and that large unemployed and often without a high school diploma, began to contribute to an increase in crime in the Midwest.

I remember reading, in an article about that period, that before that migration Chicago had a large black Middle Class that included professionals including doctors and lawyers, shop owners and teachers. And the article related how some of that black Middle Class in Chicago left to the suburbs as conditioned worsened. That was good and understanable for them. But it also meant an increase in the percentage of the black community in Chicgao that was economically deficient. So the problems grew.

[Reily]

Several of Thomas Sowell’s book and videos of his interviews on similar subjects support Donalds’ thesis. Donalds could have said it better.

[Political Junkie Too]

If you include "site=freerepublic.com" without the quotes in your search texts, you will limit the search engines to search just hits within the site.

This still works, but the searches won't be based on indexed keywords to make it comprehensive.

-PJ

[Jamestown1630]

Thanks. I’ll try it.

[Responsibility2nd]

That would be the same “everyone” who jumped to support Noem until they stopped supporting Noem.

 Which would be you and your kind. After all, she was a puppy murderer, right?

[Miami Rebel]

Literally yes. And her support sure seems to have evaporated hereabouts after the initial wave of approbation.

[Responsibility2nd]

Seriously, you’re bringing Chris Matthews and Joe Scarborough into the mix to support your position?

What the hell is wrong with you?

[Jamestown1630]

I recall people here dumping Noem because of the trans-athlete issue (completely discounting her legitimate explanation that the first bill, which she vetoed) was flawed - not the dog incident.