Posted on 06/01/2024 6:38:54 PM PDT by sunny bonobo
If this vanity post is not in the right place, please do with it as you please. I am in a conversation with a liberal on the chat forums of Revolver News. It wasn't the original topic but he claimed the alternate electors in GA, etc, were fake electors cause they signed statements saying they were the true electors. Does anyone have links to articles about the couple times in the past alternates were used so I can compare the statements they signed vs Trump's. Or if not, do you know the cases so I can look it up? Thanks
Why don’t you talk to your dog about it. They are smarter.
Why don’t you use FR to start your search. Enter “Fake Electors” and search by title. It’s a start.
politico.com
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excerpt——Until now, it’s been unclear whether the 1960 case of the Kennedy electors was truly analogous to 2020 Trump electors. But the unofficial Democratic certificates, obtained by POLITICO from the non-digitized files of the National Archives, show the three Kennedy electors signed documents that are remarkably similar to the false Trump-elector certificates.
The certificates describe the three Democrats as the “duly and legally appointed and qualified” members of the Electoral College. The envelope containing the certificates, stamped Dec. 22, 1960, includes another avowal: “We hereby certify that the lists of all the votes of the state of Hawaii given for president … are contained herein.” The documents do not mention the ongoing recount or that Nixon’s Hawaii victory had been certified.
Instead, the Hawaii Democrats used virtually the same language that the false Trump electors in five states used in their effort to upend the 2020 race. In those documents — from Arizona, Nevada, Michigan, Wisconsin and Georgia — the pro-Turmp activists described themselves as “duly elected and qualified.” In two other states, Pennsylvania and New Mexico, Trump allies submitted alternative elector slates but included a caveat: their votes would only be counted if ongoing court battles broke in favor of Trump.
Charlie Gerow, a veteran Pennsylvania Republican strategist who signed one of the pro-Trump elector certificates, said he and several other electors who were lawyers devised the strategy to include a caveat.
“We put in the contingent language quite bluntly because I and several others in the room who were lawyers insisted upon it,” said Gerow, who is currently running for governor. “We inserted that language specifically to avoid some of the charges that are coming from the left.”
Gerow said the Trump allies met at the offices of his firm, Quantum Communications, to sign the Pennsylvania certificates. At that time, several of Trump’s long shot court challenges were still pending, he noted, and the Trump electors in those states wanted to be ready in the off-chance a court handed Trump a win.
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Why don’t you use FR to start your search. Enter “Fake Electors” and search by title. It’s a start.
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Thanks. I’ll do that. Didn’t think of that.
Why don’t you talk to your dog about it. They are smarter.
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Is that said in jest or as an insult?
Thank you.
y/v/w
Dog vs Liberal?
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LOL. OK That went over my head at first.
Thanks lasereye.
The left describes them as “fake electors” to be a pejorative. Using the Kennedy/Hawaii example as a template for what was actually produced and signed resulted in the term “alternate electors”. I thing “contingent electors” would have been a better descriptor, but does not change the clear intent that they were only in the event of a Trump challenge legal victory.
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