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To: FormerFRLurker; grey_whiskers; alexander_busek
But it would be equally foolish to pretend they don't exist or that male hypergamy is confined to the incel community. Men naturally want the best looking woman who will have them and there is nothing wrong with that.

That's not quite the definition of hypergamy, to be blunt.

Hypergamy can be expressed by the adage "women marry (and date) UP."

The corollary, is even when dating, if the man stumbles, or a much better man (who she thinks she can land) comes along, she will dump the first guy, whether forcing a fake crisis, "I have to find myself (under the other man, that is), or "this just isn't working out".

(70% of divorces are initiated by women; I have read that among college-educated women, that number goes to 90%).

While men may have a floor under which they won't date or sleep around (*), the difference is, if the man is more or less content with his woman, he is not continuously looking to trade up.

(*) slumming by top 10% men among the 6's and 7's excepted, as it is sporadic. The exception, among women, is the difference between "Mr. Right" (marriage) and "Mr. RIGHT NOW!" (hawt, worthy of a fling or one-night stand, but after the deed is done, "it doesn't count" because reasons (I was out of town / on Vacation / in Europe, it was only a BJ, he used a condom, or even the ever-popular "shut up." And yes, I have seen a video within the last 12 hours, over on patriots.win, of a woman saying it doesn't count against her N-count, if he was wearing a condom).

129 posted on 06/02/2024 2:08:15 PM PDT by grey_whiskers ( The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

Hypergamy can be expressed by the adage "women marry (and date) UP."

The corollary, is even when dating, if the man stumbles, or a much better man (who she thinks she can land) comes along, she will dump the first guy, whether forcing a fake crisis, "I have to find myself (under the other man, that is), or "this just isn't working out".

Men are more likely to divorce their wives when the wife is diagnosed with a terminal illness than a woman is to leave her terminally ill husband. Is that not a man trading up to a younger and healthier woman? And we've all known men who trade their wives in for younger models once the wife starts showing signs of age. Trump has done it twice.
Men 6x More Likely to Leave

While men may have a floor under which they won't date or sleep around (*), the difference is, if the man is more or less content with his woman, he is not continuously looking to trade up.

While men are less likely to initiate divorce than women are, they are more likely to cheat. 20 million, or 1 in 6 married American men, were on Ashley Madison before it was hacked. That's an awful lot of married men looking to trade up from the woman they've got.
Forbes: 20 Million Men Active on Ashley Madison

Men are indeed less likely to initiate divorce than women are because divorce laws favor women, but they are more likely to cheat or otherwise stop fulfilling their part of making the marriage work. I'm not convinced that's any better. A woman whose husband is unfaithful faces a decline of living standards for her and her children (affairs and illegitimate children cost money), shows up to couples' events alone (affairs take time away from the marriage), and takes on more responsibilities, both domestic and bringing in income, as her husband checks out of the marriage. She is already a divorcee in all but name.

The exception, among women, is the difference between "Mr. Right" (marriage) and "Mr. RIGHT NOW!"...

How is this different from the dichotomy men make between "wife material" and "thots"?

...but after the deed is done, "it doesn't count" because reasons (I was out of town / on Vacation / in Europe, it was only a BJ, he used a condom, or even the ever-popular "shut up."

I know a lot of women with unfaithful husbands. Replace "he used a condom" with "she was on the pill" and the excuses are identical. It's not a woman thing; it's a cheater thing. Both men and women should avoid known cheaters for best results.

And yes, I have seen a video within the last 12 hours, over on patriots.win, of a woman saying it doesn't count against her N-count, if he was wearing a condom).

That says something about that one woman, not women as a whole. For all your comments to metmom about solipsism, you appear to have a touch of it yourself.

130 posted on 06/02/2024 6:43:05 PM PDT by FormerFRLurker ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"-Voltaire)
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