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What Libertarianism Gets Wrong
https://www.discoursemagazine.com/ ^ | MAY 22, 2024 | JON GABRIEL

Posted on 05/25/2024 2:09:16 PM PDT by Jonty30

Remember the “New Atheists”? They were a big deal 15 or so years ago, bashing irrationality and superstition in bestselling books like “The God Delusion,” “The End of Faith” and “God Is Not Great.” Some of them ultimately ended up as believers, others turned to ayahuasca, and Richard Dawkins recently admitted to being a “cultural Christian.” He still doesn't believe in the big J.C., but acknowledges his worldview was shaped in a Christian context.

In a similar way, I've always been a cultural libertarian. A son of the Mountain West, my traditional conservatism is heavily dosed with a “leave me the hell alone” contempt for Washington, Wall Street and anyone else who dares to tell me what to do. It’s more instinct than ideology. When policy wonks argue how government can best solve a problem, I’m the guy in back muttering, “Why should government be involved at all?”

That said, I’ve never described myself as a full-blown libertarian—never joined the party, haven’t even read “Atlas Shrugged.” Despite admiring the libertarian movement, I’ve always sensed a hollowness at its core that didn’t jibe with human nature.

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To: higgmeister

So far you keep describing yourself as a conservative which is what we usually see from the libertarians here it is like talking to Mormons, milk before meat.


81 posted on 05/26/2024 5:36:37 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: ansel12

Right and left define one’s relation to the government. Somebody on the right wants less government in their life. Somebody on the left wants more government in their life.

A libertarian should be farther right than a conservative, because of how little government they want in their life. Now, I understand that some libertarians are only libertarian for themselves, but are completely liberal when it comes to the amount of government they want for other people. They are liars, in other words.

They want for thee what they don’t want for themselves.

They aren’t really libertarian, if that’s the case.


82 posted on 05/26/2024 7:32:01 PM PDT by Jonty30 (He hunted a mammoth for me, just because I said I was hungry. He is such a good friend. )
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To: Jonty30

I think you are right. The most basic tenet of Freedom is planned and controlled immigration.

That crowd was confused and rude.


83 posted on 05/26/2024 8:17:04 PM PDT by Maris Crane
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To: Jonty30

I think you are right. The most basic tenet of Freedom is planned and controlled immigration.

That crowd was confused and rude.


84 posted on 05/26/2024 8:17:33 PM PDT by Maris Crane
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To: Jonty30

Then we are both on the same page.


85 posted on 05/26/2024 9:48:14 PM PDT by joe fonebone (And the people said NO! The End)
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To: Maris Crane

The are globalists. They think they can take the creed of live and let live and apply that concept to every person in the world. They are on the same page as the international socialists.


86 posted on 05/26/2024 10:08:23 PM PDT by Jonty30 (He hunted a mammoth for me, just because I said I was hungry. He is such a good friend. )
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To: Jonty30

“Politics is downstream from culture.”


87 posted on 05/27/2024 2:38:27 PM PDT by TBP (Decent people cannot fathom the amoral cruelty of the Biden regime.)
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To: ansel12

There are various kinds of libertarians, and the more reasonable ones, though we disagree with them on some things, could be within the Big Tent. Other than the Mises Caucus, the LP is far away from that.


88 posted on 05/27/2024 2:40:14 PM PDT by TBP (Decent people cannot fathom the amoral cruelty of the Biden regime.)
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To: TBP

Never stop trying to make conservatives of people, especially those that you want to giver power to within your ranks.


89 posted on 05/27/2024 2:43:47 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: ansel12

First, we have to engage with them.


90 posted on 05/27/2024 2:46:03 PM PDT by TBP (Decent people cannot fathom the amoral cruelty of the Biden regime.)
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To: TBP

What does that mean? Since when is no one engaging with them?


91 posted on 05/27/2024 2:49:56 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: ansel12
So far you keep describing yourself as a conservative which is what we usually see from the libertarians here it is like talking to Mormons, milk before meat.

My only hope is for you to recognize how much the ugly, stupid and pitiful Libertarian Party has given a bad rap to small "l" libertarianism.   It's not at all the same.

I have no clue what you are referring to with that Mormon comment, but I suspect that it's not kosher at all.   :^{

92 posted on 05/27/2024 5:11:16 PM PDT by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken! )
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