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Libertarians: We’re Taking the Capital by Storm
LP ^ | May 22 | LP

Posted on 05/22/2024 12:17:52 PM PDT by RandFan

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1 posted on 05/22/2024 12:17:52 PM PDT by RandFan
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To: RandFan

I’ll never understand why people feel the need to form ineffective political cliques. Libertarians are going absolutely nowhere. Fast.


2 posted on 05/22/2024 12:24:29 PM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: RandFan

The short version of the LP platform on immigration.
“3.4 Free Trade and Migration
We support the removal of governmental impediments to free trade. Political freedom and escape from tyranny demand that individuals not be unreasonably constrained by government in the crossing of political boundaries. Economic freedom demands the unrestricted movement of human as well as financial capital across national borders.”


Here is the full text version of the LP position on immigration
“Libertarian position on Immigration
COMPLETE PLATFORM TEXT
INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS AND CIVIL ORDER

IMMIGRATION:
“”The Issue: We welcome all refugees to our country and condemn the efforts of U.S. officials to create a new “Berlin Wall” which would keep them captive. We condemn the U.S. government’s policy of barring those refugees from our country and preventing Americans from assisting their passage to help them escape tyranny or improve their economic prospects.

The Principle: We hold that human rights should not be denied or abridged on the basis of nationality. Undocumented non-citizens should not be denied the fundamental freedom to labor and to move about unmolested. Furthermore, immigration must not be restricted for reasons of race, religion, political creed, age or sexual preference. We oppose government welfare and resettlement payments to non-citizens just as we oppose government welfare payments to all other persons.

Solutions: We condemn massive roundups of Hispanic Americans and others by the federal government in its hunt for individuals not possessing required government documents. We strongly oppose all measures that punish employers who hire undocumented workers. Such measures repress free enterprise, harass workers, and systematically discourage employers from hiring Hispanics.

Transitional Action: We call for the elimination of all restrictions on immigration, the abolition of the Immigration and Naturalization Service and the Border Patrol, and a declaration of full amnesty for all people who have entered the country illegally.””


3 posted on 05/22/2024 12:36:31 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: JonPreston

I think it’s because they feel they have no place in the two major political parties. And perhaps don’t care which of the two major parties wins elections.

I’m sure they know they are not going to win elections. They want to make their political statement and political views known.


4 posted on 05/22/2024 12:47:12 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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Independents are 47% of the electorate now, with the two fringe parties GOP and Democrats at 27%.

It doesn’t matter what policies are. There is $36T in debt and nothing can be done on any policies.

All that matters is upheaval of the political class — Drain the Swamp, and Build the Wall. It doesn’t matter what policy position Libertarians might have. They are not part of the two-parties-of-$36T so they are ascendant.

There is a Swamp signal. It is someone who says they are voting to cut $5B — “because it’s a good start”. No, it is not a good start. There is $36T and there is only $36T. There is no start. It is an end.


5 posted on 05/22/2024 12:50:05 PM PDT by Owen (.)
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To: Owen
There is no start. It is an end.

Bears repeating.

As the great prophet Jim Morrison of the Doors said: "...my only FRiend: THE END"

6 posted on 05/22/2024 1:04:06 PM PDT by Theophilus (covfefe)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

I’m losing interest in who wins elections.

Doesn’t matter which party is in power. Little changes. Socialism marches on. Corruption becomes more rampant.
Twice we have given the Republicans the House, the Senate, the Presidency and most of the Supreme Court.
What did they do with that power?
Nothing that they campaigned or fund raised on.
Threw it away as fast as they could.


7 posted on 05/22/2024 2:20:01 PM PDT by sjmjax
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To: ansel12

Libertarians are right about numerous things, largely economic issues, but they do not understand culture and its importance. They’ve made an ideological fetish of liberty.


8 posted on 05/22/2024 3:27:08 PM PDT by TBP (Decent people cannot fathom the amoral cruelty of the Biden regime.)
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To: sjmjax

Then find a party that supports limited government and help build it.


9 posted on 05/22/2024 3:27:54 PM PDT by TBP (Decent people cannot fathom the amoral cruelty of the Biden regime.)
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To: ansel12

Are you sure this is their current position?

The LP got taken over by Mises faction and a lot of policies have changed

You didn’t provide a date or link for this policy on immigration so I need to see that


10 posted on 05/22/2024 3:34:04 PM PDT by RandFan
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They quit posting the full text version years ago and this is all they will say since.

“3.4 Free Trade and Migration
We support the removal of governmental impediments to free trade. Political freedom and escape from tyranny demand that individuals not be unreasonably constrained by government in the crossing of political boundaries. Economic freedom demands the unrestricted movement of human as well as financial capital across national borders.”


11 posted on 05/22/2024 4:10:06 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Maybe the libertarian supporters like their party’s position on pedophilia.


12 posted on 05/22/2024 4:12:30 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: ansel12

Many of their policies have changed. You need to ensure your info is up to date or current otherwise you could be misrepresenting them

The “old” LP guard were quite liberal the “new” people not so much.


13 posted on 05/22/2024 4:14:54 PM PDT by RandFan
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To: Owen

The LP is becoming ascendant?

What portion of the Presidential vote will they take this time?


14 posted on 05/22/2024 4:14:55 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: RandFan

I have posted their 2024 platform statement on immigration twice, why do you keep ignoring it?


15 posted on 05/22/2024 4:16:00 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: ansel12

Where is the link


16 posted on 05/22/2024 4:17:27 PM PDT by RandFan
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To: RandFan

It is a party platform, you can look it up.


17 posted on 05/22/2024 4:24:48 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: ansel12

You’re citing material so give us the link

As I told you many of their policies have changed


18 posted on 05/22/2024 4:29:41 PM PDT by RandFan
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To: RandFan

This is simply the party platform, you defend them and promote them, you can surely take a look at their platform.


19 posted on 05/22/2024 4:33:42 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: RandFan
Open borders. Vending machine narcotics. Legalized prostitution. Legal abortions. Etc. All in the name of "liberty?"

Only a madman would take these liberTARDian fools seriously.

20 posted on 05/22/2024 4:38:34 PM PDT by LouAvul (DEI = Didn't Earn It. )
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