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Frontier Airlines passenger forces entire flight to deboard after refusing to comply with exit row instructions
UK Daily Mail ^ | May 20, 2024 | Emma Richter

Posted on 05/20/2024 1:32:41 PM PDT by C19fan

A Frontier Airlines passenger forced an entire flight to deboard after she refused to comply with exit row instructions.

Video of the incident posted to social media shows the unidentified woman visibly angry with airline employees as fellow passengers pleaded with her to get off the plane.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Travel
KEYWORDS: air; airlines; flying; frontier
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To: metmom

Then you didn’t realize the post you responded to was attempting to assert the idea that skin pigment has a mind of its own.


101 posted on 05/21/2024 7:16:00 AM PDT by reasonisfaith (What are the personal implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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To: reasonisfaith

You falsely attributed a base motive to me. That is slander. Or libel. In any case, it is defamation.

My purpose is to warn you to watch your tongue.

I suggest that you should also open your eyes.

And the word you’re looking for is “sowing”, not “sewing”.


102 posted on 05/21/2024 8:04:06 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: reasonisfaith

I guess not.


103 posted on 05/21/2024 8:29:26 AM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: reasonisfaith

My post 3 was simply posted to the first post on the thread, as is normal for FR posting.


104 posted on 05/21/2024 8:30:46 AM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: TexasGator

It is read in major professional airlines to all who are seated on exit door rows. The words are in the Federal code.

You never sat on an exit row. Pro passengers (business people) select the seating routinely, and incidentally often one has a pilot seated there dead heading to the destination or beyond.


105 posted on 05/21/2024 9:26:50 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis )
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To: John S Mosby

“It is read in major professional airlines to all who are seated on exit door rows. The words are in the Federal code.”

What is it? What words? What point are you trying to make?

“You never sat on an exit row”

Several times.


106 posted on 05/21/2024 9:34:06 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator

Look it up. Satisfy your lack of knowledge.


107 posted on 05/21/2024 9:58:36 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis )
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To: John S Mosby

“Look it up. Satisfy your lack of knowledge.”

My knowledge on the issue is solid. What is lacking is what is your point or are you just trolling?


108 posted on 05/21/2024 10:01:26 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: John S Mosby

“Yes, they are. However Frontier Airlines is subject to FAA rules on Exit Row passengers. They must agree to assist other passengers and the attendants in an emergency requiring egress through the emergency door on the row(s) where they are seated.”

The reason you won’t cite the regulations is that you know you are wrong.


109 posted on 05/21/2024 10:14:44 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator

14 CFR § 121.585 - Exit seating.

 

(b) No certificate holder may seat a person in a seat affected by this section if the certificate holder determines that it is likely that the person would be unable to perform one or more of the applicable functions listed in paragraph (d) of this section because—

(1) The person lacks sufficient mobility, strength, or dexterity in both arms and hands, and both legs:

(i) To reach upward, sideways, and downward to the location of emergency exit and exit-slide operating mechanisms;

(ii) To grasp and push, pull, turn, or otherwise manipulate those mechanisms;

(iii) To push, shove, pull, or otherwise open emergency exits;

(iv) To lift out, hold, deposit on nearby seats, or maneuver over the seatbacks to the next row objects the size and weight of over-wing window exit doors;

(v) To remove obstructions similar in size and weight to over-wing exit doors;

(vi) To reach the emergency exit expeditiously;

(vii) To maintain balance while removing obstructions;

(viii) To exit expeditiously;

(ix) To stabilize an escape slide after deployment; or

(x) To assist others in getting off an escape slide;

 

Airlines are required to develop their own policies implementing these regulations.  Flying regularly on Southwest, the standard instruction is always to "assist others", without specifying the exact nature of that assistance.

110 posted on 05/21/2024 11:43:44 AM PDT by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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To: absalom01

“(b) No certificate holder may seat a person in a seat affected by this section if the certificate holder determines that it is likely that the person would be unable to perform one or more of the applicable functions listed in paragraph (d) of this section because—

(1) The person lacks sufficient mobility, strength, or dexterity in both arms and hands, and both legs:”

NOTHING ABOUT THE PASSENGER MAKING AN AGREEMENT TO HELP OTHERS.


111 posted on 05/21/2024 1:10:56 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: absalom01

You are really sneaky!

“(b) No certificate holder may seat a person in a seat affected by this section if the certificate holder determines that it is likely that the person would be unable to perform one or more of the applicable functions listed in paragraph (d) of this section because—

Nothing about agreeing to help passengers.

-—————Section d——————

(d) Each certificate holder shall include on passenger information cards, presented in the language in which briefings and oral commands are given by the crew, at each exit seat affected by this section, information that, in the event of an emergency in which a crewmember is not available to assist, a passenger occupying an exit seat may use if called upon to perform the following functions:

(1) Locate the emergency exit;

(2) Recognize the emergency exit opening mechanism;

(3) Comprehend the instructions for operating the emergency exit;

(4) Operate the emergency exit;

(5) Assess whether opening the emergency exit will increase the hazards to which passengers may be exposed;

(6) Follow oral directions and hand signals given by a crewmember;

(7) Stow or secure the emergency exit door so that it will not impede use of the exit;

(8) Assess the condition of an escape slide, activate the slide, and stabilize the slide after deployment to assist others in getting off the slide;

(9) Pass expeditiously through the emergency exit; and

(10) Assess, select, and follow a safe path away from the emergency exit.


112 posted on 05/21/2024 1:20:42 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator

Why wouldn’t section (x) be relevant?

All I know is that I just sat down in a seat on the overwing exit of a Southwest 373, and the stew asked everyone to confirm that they were willing and able to assist in the event 9f an evacuation.

Not trying to pick a fight, just seems that the (x) section would cover the “assist” demand, since the overwing briefing never actually specifies what part of the evacuation would involve the “assist”.

What am I missing?


113 posted on 05/21/2024 2:38:49 PM PDT by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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To: absalom01

“Why wouldn’t section (x) be relevant?”

The red states the certificate holder determines. Nothing about the passenger agreeing to comply.

The functions required are in Section D. (x) is not in section D.

(x) is in the section headed by “(1) The person lacks sufficient mobility, strength, or dexterity in both arms and hands, and both legs:”. Only refers to capability, not consent.

-—————The reg ——————

b) No certificate holder may seat a person in a seat affected by this section if the certificate holder determines that it is likely that the person would be unable to perform one or more of the applicable functions listed in paragraph (d) of this section because—

(1) The person lacks sufficient mobility, strength, or dexterity in both arms and hands, and both legs:

.....

(ix) To stabilize an escape slide after deployment; or

(x) To assist others in getting off an escape slide;


114 posted on 05/21/2024 3:17:22 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator

Thanks. I can see where you’re coming from.


115 posted on 05/21/2024 6:11:04 PM PDT by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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To: absalom01

“Thanks”

Thank you!


116 posted on 05/21/2024 6:19:21 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: NorthMountain

I say you’re afraid to openly state what you meant in post # 6.


117 posted on 05/21/2024 6:49:57 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (What are the personal implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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To: reasonisfaith
Urban black Americans are disproportionately correlated with criminality and obstreperous public behavior.

Does my open observation of that fact cause you butthurt?

It's true. I think you know it's true, but you're afraid to admit it because somebody might call you ugly names. Grow a pair ...

118 posted on 05/21/2024 7:23:13 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: JJBookman

119 posted on 05/21/2024 7:24:57 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: NorthMountain

Blacks commit more crimes. I’ve been saying this for years, because it’s true. But it’s not because they’re black. It’s because as a population they’ve been mind-controlled to become criminals. This can be erased in a generation.

And your snide little comments are intended to cause racial division. You’ve also been mind-controlled.

What you need to be doing is try to help unite blacks and whites. The way to do that is point the finger at the leftist globalist cabal.


120 posted on 05/21/2024 10:07:48 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (What are the personal implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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