Posted on 05/18/2024 6:34:34 PM PDT by nickcarraway
Fascinating stuff.
Here's the some of the flood myths mentioned by ChatGPT:
Mesopotamian Flood Myth (Epic of Gilgamesh): One of the earliest known flood stories, where the gods send a flood to destroy humanity, but the hero Utnapishtim builds a boat to save his family and animals.Biblical Flood (Noah’s Ark): In the Judeo-Christian tradition, God floods the earth to purge it of wickedness, sparing Noah, his family, and pairs of each animal species.
Hindu Flood Myth (Manu): In Hindu tradition, Manu is warned of a great flood by a fish (who is an avatar of the god Vishnu), and he builds a boat to save himself and the sacred scriptures.
Chinese Flood Myth (Yu the Great): Chinese legend tells of a great flood controlled by the hero Yu, who created channels to divert the water.
Lately, there is a flood of megalithic archeological videos calling the subject a “preFlood” megalithic structure
Wow. If you have any links, let me know. I would love to watch them. Thx.
Except the whole ideology behind the flood myth was written about by the Sumerians and inherited by the Babylonians long before they were written in the Bible. Yet the writers of the Bible claimed it as uniquely their own of their own God.
The stories are the same, but which was documented first? And which was so closely mirrored many many years later? If they did not disclose where they got the ideology in the first place then they meant to hide where they sourced that ideology and call it their own.
This is plagiarism. Have either of you ever even read the prior Sumerian/Babylonian flood myth to compare them? The ideology of constructing an ark and a great flood was not uniquely Biblical and it was documented long long before...
There’s a ton of them. Search you tube for pre flood megalithic structures
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=pre+flood+megaliths+
Thx. Will do.
“there were no space alien sightings in the prior centuries.”
Except this is not true... The concept has been documented through Christian and other faith’s art work for over a couple thousand years. The concept is not new at all:
https://duckduckgo.com/?t=lm&q=UFOs+in+ancient+art&iax=images&ia=images
“Also weird along those lines is how there is an ancient flood narrative in cultures around the world.”
Yes, and even the Native Americans, who knew nothing of the old world:
https://mythologyworldwide.com/the-legend-of-the-great-flood-in-native-american-mythology/
It all boils down to this... They are ALL correct but the ideology is not unique to each as their own, there was indeed a great flood and each has it’s own tradition to try explain why and how it happened.
But to be fair... The flood myth was more than likely shared by oral tradition from other cultures long before the Sumerians documented it in writing. So even the Sumerians probably plagiarized it too.
“Yet the writers of the Bible claimed it as uniquely their own of their own God.”
Nope. Did not happen. That is not claimed at all. You cannot find a single verse in the Old Testament to that effect. The Biblical writers claimed that the God they revealed was uniquely their own. You need to find another object of your anti-Christain venom. You people amaze me. That statement you just made. You just took ownership of it, but it is certainly not your own. You got it from other sources. That was once common knowledge.
And in the age of exploration during the 1700s and 1800s, explorers discovered isolated cultures that had a flood myth. The American Indians told Buffalo Bill of giants that once roamed the land.
Genesis 6 is hardly explained since it was such common knowledge, across cultures, at that time, except all the other cultures thought it was a great thing, when “gods” walked among men.
“So even the Sumerians probably plagiarized it too.”
You people need to let go of the “plagiarize” bromide. Knowledge of any kind that is passed down through the ages is not being plagiarized.
Homer collected a lot of stuff together, put it into a cohesive very artistic whole and handed it down and no one has accused him of plagiarizing.
Biblical writers did the same thing. They even mentioned a lot of their sources.
“Nope. Did not happen. That is not claimed at all.”
Yes they did... And you yourself are right now. The Bible is the only source that is to be righteous period, all others are false. This is absolutely a claim of uniqueness.
“You need to find another object of your anti-Christain venom.”
I am not anti-Christian at all... I am just an open minded historian with no ignorant biased mental firewalls that prevent and block out discovery of the whole picture in history.
“The Bible is the only source that is to be righteous period, all others are false.”
You can’t be an historian with such whomper-jawed nonsense.
The Bible purports to be the only source of the true God, it is a narrowly focused, very brief compilation, makes no attempt to be an exact and only source of world history and current events worldwide, and does not claim at all the be the only source of historical knowledge. It does not make any claims at all on the correctness of secular sources and knowledge. And it is nonsensical to claim it does.
The Bible writers made no attempt to address important events that were currently happening at the time, only when it involved Israel. For example, Israel existed contemperaneously with the Greek civilization and the Bible never even mentions it, although the two nations certainly would have had much communication, etc.
“This is absolutely a claim of uniqueness.”
The claim of uniqueness has only to do with the worship of the God of Israel and his directing, fighting their enemies, and the Israelites sinning away their blessings.
I went to a lecture by Zecharia Sitchin in 2009. How many other freepers can claim this?
ANUNNAKI MOVIE | ANUNNAKI FULL MOVIE 2024 | Lost book of Enki Complete Story
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ud36wnaaw78&t=6932s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KQjy02eqOk
Great spaz moves by Fred there (seriously). From Steve Martins King Tut.
You get it! Maybe the Anunnaki gold miners were right. Gold price is up n up today.
The Bible is the only source that is to be righteous period, all others are false.
“You can’t be an historian with such whomper-jawed nonsense.”
This is the argument and belief from 99% of believers so I assume it is the same with you? No? You do not believe the Bible is the sole unique righteous authority?
If so, then by Christian standards you are not a true believer because literally word for word this is what everyone faithful does indeed believe...
“You do not believe the Bible is the sole unique righteous authority?”
I have no clue what your definition of “sole unique righteous authority” encompasses. Your use of “righteous” gives you away. I bet anything you think you are going to sneak that in and try to trap me with something.
Being a Christian, I believe that the Bible is inspired of God, and that it is the only volume inspsired by God. That is, he has not inspired other books purporting to show the way to salvation, etc.
As such, it is a very tiny spectrum of what can be considered “righteous authority.” A history book written by Winston Churchill, for example, could very well be considered a righteous authority, since he was honest, knowledgable, did his research, and was brilliant.
Luke, in writing his account in the New Testament, said he used and compared manuscripts to arrive at accuracy. He obviously considered those manuscripts “righteous authority” and we don’t have them now.
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