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To: Gaffer
I believe the true effect of the vaccine is being purposely hidden or obscured.

Vaccine effects have been researched for over 200 years now. At this time, we have a pretty good idea of what to expect from vaccines.

Of course! you can’t expect those same agencies responsible for producing and promoting the vaccine to come out and willingly (honestly) attribute complications or adverse vaccine events (remember the stopped updating that?).

The VAERS reporting system, as well as the other adverse event reporting systems, is still up and running. Certain serious adverse events are reportable by law. The vaccine package inserts actually contain a section explaining the VAERS reporting requirements for health care professionals. Anyone, of course, can submit a report.

I’m not saying the Covid Vaccine is causing direct quick deaths but I’m not convinced one bit that the multitude of anecdotal incidents of myocardia, etc. aren’t mid-long term effects, either.

Anecdotal stories are worthless. There are actual documented instances of myocardia, especially in young men after the second dose. These have been investigated and reported on in the medical literature. The rate of myocardia in the highest risk group is about one per 50,000 doses (IIRC). It has been found that the rate goes down if the interval between vaccine doses is increased.

The long-term effects of vaccination have been investigated, as I already said, for over 200 years. Long-term, vaccines provide protection which can prevent or decrease severity of disease. As for adverse events that last for a long time, like Guillain-Barré syndrome, those are immune-system disorders which are triggered more frequently by catching infectious diseases than from getting vaccinated, but the mechanism is the same either way. The immune system causes adverse events, not the vaccine.

I've seen antivax propagandist predictions that everyone who has been vaccinated would die within two years, then three. I wonder how long they'll keep extending that deadline because we keep failing to die?

And, as far as the 1.2 Million deaths go, there are other things to consider like hospitals being paid extra money to ‘treat Covid ailments,’ diagnoses by opinion of symptoms (vs actual verified clinical testing), etc.

This is pure conspiracy theory, which is not supported by facts. Hospitals were so overrun with seriously ill Covid patients that they were turning away people with other illnesses. As a result, about 1/3 of the half-million excess deaths that occurred during the first year of the pandemic were caused by increased deaths caused by heart disease, diabetes, kidney disease, and other ailments that are typically among the top ten causes of death.

If, as the conspiracy goes, hospitals were counting other causes of death as Covid, then how do you explain the 528,891 (in 2020), 609,393 (in 2021), and 418,867 (in 2022) excess deaths that occurred during the peak of the pandemic? If we started seeing those numbers of excess deaths without a pandemic going on, then we would immediately start looking at why, since people don't just start dropping dead in large numbers like that without a reason.

59 posted on 05/13/2024 10:38:00 AM PDT by exDemMom (Dr. exDemMom, infectious disease and vaccines research specialist.)
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To: exDemMom

Oh please! 200 years. This is an mRNA creation not a ‘live virus’ compilation it wasn’t even a vaccine until the CDC had to change the definition of a ‘vaccine’ for cripes sake. Stop drinking their water.


63 posted on 05/13/2024 1:31:31 PM PDT by Gaffer
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