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How Reagan and Thatcher would have defeated Putin in Ukraine
The Hill ^ | 5/3/2024 | ROBERT PITTENGER AND OLEG DUNDA

Posted on 05/03/2024 7:35:04 AM PDT by marcusmaximus

A bipartisan majority in the U.S. Congress recently took the noble and necessary action of devoting a fresh round of aid worth $61 billion to Ukraine. Now that the U.S. has stepped up militarily, the West needs to ramp up a line of effort that has been lacking in its Ukraine strategy: intensifying economic warfare. It’s a tactic that President Ronald Reagan and British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher would have embraced — and one that will undermine the Russian military and the Vladimir Putin’s regime’s stability.

Reagan came into office perceiving the Soviet Union’s economic weakness, and resolved early in his presidency to use American economic power to bring down the USSR. In 1982, National Security Advisor William Clark said in a speech, “We must force our principal adversary, the Soviet Union, to bear the brunt of its economic shortcomings.”

Later, the seminal National Security Decision Directive-75 of 1983 articulated the need “to seek to minimize the potential for Soviet exercise of reverse leverage on Western countries based on trade, energy supply, and financial relationships.” Hence, throughout the 1980s the vast majority of U.S-Soviet trade was dominated by agricultural products. American machinery and equipment composed 13 percent of U.S-Soviet trade totals in 1981, but fell to 5 percent by 1985.

Today, the Western war effort is hamstrung by Kremlin leverage over the West in the form of continued oil and gas exports.

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Sadly, many Ukraine-supporting democracies have not done enough to wean themselves from Russian energy — a work Donald Trump started as president by sanctioning the now-defunct Nord Stream 2 pipeline. Hungary, Slovakia, Belgium, Czechia and France were the largest buyers of Russian fossil fuels within the European Union in February 2024.

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KEYWORDS: dailypropaganda; lesspropagandaplease; mucusmaximus; propagandaspam; reagan; russia; sovietunion; thatcher; ussr; whatif
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To: circlecity; marcusmaximus

“Reagan wouldn’t have orchestrated a coup in Ukraine and militarized it’s border thus prompting the Russian invasion.”

Reagan most certainly DID support and perhaps even orchestrate anti-Soviet/Russian coups in Poland, Czechoslovakia, and East Germany.

Forty years ago Reagan also supported the Strategic Defense Initiative in which the US purported to spend billions developing a national missile defense shield. The Russians bankrupted themselves trying to counter it and in the end it turned out that the US never built much of anything.

The purpose of SDI was to help bring down the USSR, which it did.

That said, were Reagan our President right now there can be no doubt that the old war horse would be doing his damndest to defeat and humiliate armed Russian aggression in Ukraine, Georgia, and Moldova.


41 posted on 05/03/2024 8:56:35 AM PDT by MeganC ("Russians are subhuman" - posted by Kazan 8 March 2024)
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To: MeganC

Well said.


42 posted on 05/03/2024 8:58:04 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: PGR88; UMCRevMom@aol.com
>>>>One can see there is a sustained, uniform effort from the various Zeeper propagandists here on FR to turn Reagan into a 2024 anti-Russian neocon. It always follows the same form.

It smacks of a deep-state / DHS marketing campaign<<<<

Zeepers are also on a mission to destroy MGT because of her vocal opposition to UKE funding as evidenced by this post from REVEREND mommy.

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43 posted on 05/03/2024 8:58:06 AM PDT by bimboeruption (“Less propaganda would be appreciated.” JimRob 12-2-2023)
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To: Navy Patriot

“They would have jailed HomoNazi Grifter Zelensky for life, and Putin would have had no cause to defend helpless Russians.”

Ruzzia’s war against Ukraine started in 2014 long before Zelensky ever ran for office.


44 posted on 05/03/2024 8:58:42 AM PDT by MeganC ("Russians are subhuman" - posted by Kazan 8 March 2024)
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To: marcusmaximus

Interesting. But unlike present times, Reagan and Thatcher had a real Pope in the Vatican as a strong ally, the spiritual leader who rallied Eastern Europeans and eventually helped to bring down communism.


45 posted on 05/03/2024 9:44:33 AM PDT by rfp1234 (E Porcibus Unum )
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To: marcusmaximus

LOL - You ZEEPERS and your globalist sources trying to metamorphose Reagan and Thatcher into globalists. I’m sure they would rather change into giant insects.


46 posted on 05/03/2024 9:58:17 AM PDT by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA-PRO-MAX)
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To: circlecity

What ACTUALLY happened was that Putin has been trying to bite off chunks of Ukraine by fomenting “rebellions” to give RuSSian troops an excuse to enter and take it. This was followed by Putin supporting a Kremlin proxy in Kyiv, thus giving him the country like Lukashenko gave Belarus to RuSSia without a shot fired.

All that was messed up by the Maidan revolution when Ukrainians said no to Putin’s henchman and he was expelled. Putin then decided he would have to take Ukraine by force.

Ukraine’s refusal to be annexed by RuSSia is angering Putin and his worshippers.

RuSSian propaganda should NEVER be welcome on a conservative site.


47 posted on 05/03/2024 10:08:19 AM PDT by Vaden (WyMAN! (hear them roar!) will destroy us for abortion in 2024)
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To: bobbo666

Also because Reagan was well into undermining the entire USSR via rock and roll music.


48 posted on 05/03/2024 10:14:10 AM PDT by LS
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Reagan and Thatcher wouldn’t have had a good reason to ‘defeat Putin’.....

Why?

Because they weren’t laundering money through Ukraine, nor had to make money for weapons manufacturers..


49 posted on 05/03/2024 10:23:53 AM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: marcusmaximus

Bunk — Putin is not like Brezhnev of the communist era when Reagan was President.


50 posted on 05/03/2024 10:29:36 AM PDT by Socon-Econ (adi)
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To: rrrod

Reagan was fighting the Soviets, not Russia. Between the Bushes, Clinton and Obumbler they along with the Russians destroyed Reagans Cold War victory.

We did not have to be in conflict with the Russians. Had we and the Russians been wise this wouldn’t be a blip on the radar and we would be focusing on the real dangers of the world China and Iran.


51 posted on 05/03/2024 10:30:09 AM PDT by sarge83
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To: MeganC

That was against the USSR. It doesn’t exist any more.


52 posted on 05/03/2024 10:37:45 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: marcusmaximus

Reagan would have kept the price of oil low enough that Russia wouldn’t have had the financial resources to invade. Blame Biden’s anti-petro green agenda.


53 posted on 05/03/2024 11:16:37 AM PDT by FreedomForce
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To: FreedomForce

Yep. Drill, baby, drill.


54 posted on 05/03/2024 11:18:52 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: marcusmaximus

The Chomskyite nutjobs hated Reagan when he was POTUS. Still do, apparently. LOL.


55 posted on 05/03/2024 11:32:40 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: lodi90

The Paultards, too.


56 posted on 05/03/2024 11:36:20 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: sarge83

Reagan knew he was fighting Russia, he knew whose empire it was and he was trying to free Russia’s subjects, which he did, and they don’t want to fall under Russia again.


57 posted on 05/03/2024 11:38:03 AM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: circlecity

“That was against the USSR. It doesn’t exist any more.”

It absolutely does. If there was no continuity between the USSR and the Russian Federation then the Russian Federation would not be laying claim to things that never belonged to them.

Such as Georgia, Moldova, Ukraine, Crimea, Poland, etc.

Or, of course, you can insist that the Russian Federation is indeed wholly disconnected from the Soviet Union and that it should renounce all claims to nations and lands that the USSR ceded to other countries prior to the existence of the Russian Federation.


58 posted on 05/03/2024 1:06:30 PM PDT by MeganC ("Russians are subhuman" - posted by Kazan 8 March 2024)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Horse poop. He was far from being a warmonger. Especially over a corrupt pigsty like Ukraine. Seems like a lot of people have no clue about Reagan.


59 posted on 05/03/2024 2:08:42 PM PDT by dforest ( )
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To: MinorityRepublican

No he isn’t. Neocons always exaggerate to keep the endless wars going.

What are we doing in Ukraine who we have made a US client state?


60 posted on 05/03/2024 2:12:25 PM PDT by dforest ( )
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