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To: tennmountainman; MeganC; PIF; gleeaikin; USA-FRANCE
tennmountain: "Only 31,000 Ukies Dead?
LOL
Ruzzia will win war of attrition"

US estimates were roughly double that number, though the differences could be in how various terms are defined and counted.

For examples, which of the following deaths are included? --

  1. Killed in battle
  2. Died later of wounds
  3. Died non-battle related accidents
  4. Died from illnesses
  5. Friendly fire incidents
  6. Missing, presumed dead
tennmountain: "I suggest Macron deploy 50,000 French Surrender Monkeys to help YouCrayne."

I'd say, if we look at the US war record in Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan, we don't need to be calling the French "Surrender Monkey's".

Indeed, overall, the French war record is rather good:

  1. Since the French Revolution in 1790, the French war record is 94 wins and 17 losses.

  2. Since the Third Republic in 1870, the French have scored 57 wins and 7 losses.

  3. Since the end of WWII in 1945, the French have won 22 victories against 5 losses.
For comparisons: the USA since 1945 is 17 wins, 8 losses.

Russia/USSR since 1945 is 17 wins, 3 losses.

In addition to the above, all have several inconclusive and/or ongoing wars not yet resolved.

As for sending French or other NATO troops to Ukraine, I think the threat is meant to be taken seriously, and will likely happen should it prove necessary -- i.e., if Ukraine's lines begin to collapse.


75 posted on 05/01/2024 4:24:33 AM PDT by BroJoeK (future DDG 134 -- we remember)
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To: BroJoeK

For examples, which of the following deaths are included? —

Killed in battle
Died later of wounds
Died non-battle related accidents
Died from illnesses
Friendly fire incidents
Missing, presumed dead

As far as anyone knows, Russian casualties are counted on the battlefield. The other categories are not used.

However, Moscow does or did release casualty figures which roughly correspond(ed) with UKR’s figures. What metrics are used here is unknown to me.

Here are the last figures posted on Telegram:

GeneralSVR(reserve)
https://t.me/s/generalsvr2

Saturday, March 23, 2024, in the morning report to the Secretary of the Security Council of the Russian Federation Nikolai Patrushev, irretrievable military operational losses of personnel of the Russian Armed Forces, 434,233 people. Data as of 6:00 Moscow time today.


77 posted on 05/01/2024 6:46:28 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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