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What became of communism in Vietnam?
American Thinker ^ | 23 Apr, 2024 | Greg Young

Posted on 04/23/2024 8:47:21 AM PDT by MtnClimber

Rainer Zitelmann's book, How Nations Escape Poverty, is particularly interesting for American veterans who served as G.I.s in Vietnam or for those who may have lost their fathers or family members in the conflict.

The irony of history is that the communists initially won — however, upon establishing their socialist regime across Vietnam, they came to realize what a huge mistake they had made. Today, young Vietnamese in particular admire the USA and capitalism, as Zitelmann’s book shows. He asked the Vietnamese which economic systems they admire and which they reject. According to the survey data, people in Vietnam have a strong preference for the economic systems in Japan, South Korea, and Singapore, while hardly anyone approves of North Korea. And among the younger generation in Vietnam, the USA is in second place.

What made America the most successful and greatest country in history? Two things: first, capitalism (the belief in the superiority of the market economy and entrepreneurship) and second, the American spirit — i.e., the belief that you are responsible for your own life and can achieve anything through good ideas and hard work.

In recent years, these two convictions have weakened. A growing number of young Americans, in particular, have come to doubt the superiority of capitalism. This is a failure of our school system and our universities. Many young Americans simply do not know enough about the history of socialism and capitalism.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Education; History; Society
KEYWORDS: communistvietnam; fakenews; marxism; theyrestillcommies; vietnam
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To: ducttape45
Vietnam, good retirement location?

For most, no. Vietnam has no retirement visa, commie grade health care, must leave the country for a day every 3 months, communist super-bureaucracy to deal with. For Americans, there's also the super embarrassment of the Derp State "American War" the Demonrats inflicted on them. Vietnam has thousands of beautiful women, and millions of nice, hardworking people, but for retirement, there are better options.

21 posted on 04/23/2024 9:43:16 AM PDT by Reeses
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To: MtnClimber

But the government is still one party dictatorship.


22 posted on 04/23/2024 9:52:21 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: MtnClimber

My very plain and routine unexciting coffee table in front of the living room couch was made in Vietnam. It’s nice. It wasn’t very expensive. It’s “strong-built.”

Never occurred to me while I was in Vietnam in 1968 that I’d even own such a thing.

“Fortunes of war”

bb
RVN 67-68


23 posted on 04/23/2024 9:53:06 AM PDT by William of Barsoom (In Omnia, Paratus)
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To: MtnClimber
If this is true, capitalism may be getting worse than communism in a sense as time progresses. But as far as I know communism still does not allow for free uncontrolled worship of God, in which case I'd rather be poor.

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24 posted on 04/23/2024 10:03:39 AM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: redfreedom; All
Will it be possible for private property to be abolished at one stroke?

No, no more than existing forces of production can at one stroke be multiplied to the extent necessary for the creation of a communal society.

In all probability, the proletarian revolution will transform existing society gradually and will be able to abolish private property only when the means of production are available in sufficient quantity.

The Principles of Communism, point #17
The communists in Red China and Red Vietnam have not deviated from their goals one iota. Their current economic tactics are very much in line with their goals, whether it be the present situation or going back to Lenin and his New Economic Policy.
25 posted on 04/23/2024 10:35:46 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: MtnClimber

Just got back from Vietnam - they’ve taken to capitalism with a vengeance. They are definitely up and coming and they do like Americans.


26 posted on 04/23/2024 10:49:31 AM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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To: Rinnwald

“Are the communists still in charge, with just a veneer of capitalism, like in China?”

Veneer of capitalism!? They are more capitalistic than we are, and Vietnam is following in their footsteps.

And no neither is communist, even if the parties retain their old name. Private property and businesses are nonexistent in communist countries,there are oodles of them in both countries and are thriving. You see Mercedes, BMWs everywhere.

What they are is single party dictatorships, kinda like California, except they have a lot more common sense.

You should take a trip there - it’ll be very educational.


27 posted on 04/23/2024 10:58:16 AM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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To: fishtank

Doggone voodoo autocorrect got me again!


28 posted on 04/23/2024 11:53:13 AM PDT by Macho MAGA Man (The last two weren't balloons. One was a cylindrical objects Trump is being given the Alex Jones tr)
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To: Reeses

Ok, it was just a “gee whiz” question. Thanks for that information!


29 posted on 04/23/2024 12:40:56 PM PDT by ducttape45 (Proverbs 14:34, "Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people.")
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To: MtnClimber

Government Anti-Catholism didn’t go, that’s for sure.


30 posted on 04/23/2024 12:47:29 PM PDT by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It
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To: MtnClimber
Many things begin and end with a state of mind. A state of mind that is taught and promoted.

Texas, is a state of mind for one example. A place that was nothing but sticks, stones, dry and inhospitable where all that lived there and still does stick, stink and sting. The Allen Brothers of Houston are a prime example of the power of promotion to have laid the foundations for a huge and usually prosperous city in a swamp.

The pathway to promotion of the state of mind that once was the United States has been very damaged if not destroyed. The destruction began in the home and the schools and the minds of our children. We have been invaded and nary a shot was fired. Just like Wild Bill killed the two little girls with their love in "Green Mile" we have been killed with abuse of our own rights and Constitution manipulated to favor actions we should have rejected. This would not have happened if we had been strong enough and numerous eough in our convictions to just say, "NO, not going to have that". When we tried our voices were drowned out by activist judges and others of their ilk. The loss of the moral, religious and rightly informed foundations of the nation that would roundly reject the freely expressed premises that have torn us down remained silent until the dirty deed has been done.

31 posted on 04/23/2024 1:16:48 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Procrastination is just a form of defiance)
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To: MtnClimber

They killed 55,000 Americans so some different people could live in the palace and ride in the government limousines.

Screw them.


32 posted on 04/23/2024 1:24:06 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer” )
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To: MtnClimber

The author mistakes the free market for capitalism. Which you shouldn’t do if you’re inclined to lecture the youth on the better alternative to communism.

It bears mention that after conquering a region, the Romans didn’t force anyone to adopt a Roman lifestyle. They just put it on display, and if offered so many more creature comforts than most of the period’s alternatives (at least so long as slaves were in good supply) that its attractiveness was self-evident.

The same can be said for a free market and the value-added economy.


33 posted on 04/23/2024 6:03:18 PM PDT by threefinger
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To: Sequoyah101

It also helps to be floating on oil as Texas once was.


34 posted on 04/23/2024 7:28:13 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Procrastination is just a form of defiance)
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To: MtnClimber

A way to explain this to the skulls of mush is to line them up against a wall or a trench during the school year and point rifles at them and tell them this is socialism and communism and that communists are those in a hurry when you hear BANG!

FTA: Many young Americans simply do not know enough about the history of socialism and capitalism.


35 posted on 04/24/2024 11:08:08 AM PDT by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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To: Reeses

#21 Tennessee is nice if all your ex’s live in Texas....


36 posted on 04/24/2024 11:11:43 AM PDT by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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To: MtnClimber

It moved to Washington DC.


37 posted on 04/24/2024 11:14:57 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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