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To: ransomnote
You do know that our "donations" have been from our older stocks of weapons? If we hadn't sent them to Ukraine then we would have had to pay to have them destroyed. We are NOT sending them our top of the line stuff.

I am NOT a fan of our Ukraine policy but this has been a major military coup on our part. We get rid of our older weapons almost for free while Ukraine attrites the Russian army down to a nub and NO American servicemen are killed. That sounds like a near historical military win to me.

SpyNavy

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

2,239 posted on 05/02/2024 11:49:40 AM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: LonePalm
In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled Q ~ Trust Trump's Plan ~ 04/19/2024 Vol.491, Q Day 2365, LonePalm wrote:
You do know that our "donations" have been from our older stocks of weapons? If we hadn't sent them to Ukraine then we would have had to pay to have them destroyed. We are NOT sending them our top of the line stuff.

I am NOT a fan of our Ukraine policy but this has been a major military coup on our part. We get rid of our older weapons almost for free while Ukraine attrites the Russian army down to a nub and NO American servicemen are killed. That sounds like a near historical military win to me.

SpyNavy

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

Yes. I personally believe that our MAGA military controls the 'good stuff' because Biden would give the Ukraine every last modern jet, tank and missile if he could - the Deep State is in meltdown mode over the Ukraine. Therefore, Biden gives the Ukraine obsolete rags and our 'officials' preen as if we are giving them the best. I think the flag waving in the House was optics to cover for the truth of the ragged donations - people would wonder what was stopping the House from doing better, giving more. Trump suggested Congress give loans, knowing that it's a losing situation - I think it was also comms - it seems as if Trump may have been revising the appropriations bill. Supposedly a sizable chunk of the 61Billion will be used to pay off military contractors for hardware we already delivered to Ukraine - without Congressional approval.

This seems like settling some debts ahead of the election.


2,259 posted on 05/02/2024 2:16:38 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: LonePalm
I am NOT a fan of our Ukraine policy but this has been a major military coup on our part. We get rid of our older weapons almost for free while Ukraine attrites the Russian army down to a nub and NO American servicemen are killed. That sounds like a near historical military win to me.

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But what is the future LP? Do you think Russia/China is going to surrender? NO! Do you think Ukraine with US/NATO support is going to invade Russia (and then presumably push on to China? NO! (Or maybe that is the globalist/derp neocon fantasy.)

Didn't we learn in Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan that it is possible to win every battle, yet lose the war?

Some version of this neocon futility is in store for us in Ukraine.

In addition, China and Russia are rapidly integrating their military capabilities via Ukraine in possible prep for a joint invasion of Taiwan.

Depleting Russia is a slice of meat in the shit sandwich. But it's still a shit sandwich.

2,392 posted on 05/03/2024 11:05:41 AM PDT by Disestablishmentarian (#T-Party 2024)
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To: LonePalm

All due respect here, for your expert knowledge and experience, still, your assessment(s) of Putin remain no part an answer to, nor a denial of Putin’s charges of the several betrayals of sovereign Russia, by the West.

No better answers come from any Western source, either.

I think 80% of the earth’s land mass hear more and know more than we do about Russian concerns.

I won’t repeat the case made, which obviously finds Russia shoved by the USA into the arms of China and the Muslim world, nor why Russia is present and currently suing the West for Cause, in the fields of UKR.

However, Putin by all indications *has* been heard by 80% of the world land mass populations, outside of the G7, who Themselves have experienced Russia’s case or similar, when the US has come calling.

Western audiences are left to please stay-put in the past, in the 1950’s version of Communist USSR. Almost a century later, coming in 26 more years, the theme narrative remains— “Just-Keep-Russia-Communist”, and never, never hear the other side and debate the evidence.

Turns out that it is chiefly the West|the United States and EU actively showing themselves to Expand and to Rule the world, NATO🎭 as its “peace🧸keeping” armed forces, the UN🎊 as its Court🤿.

Your description cost the lives of a generation of young Ukrainians for 30 pieces of silver metal and destroyed a country.

The “nub” of which you speak has Awakened most of the world’s populations. And, for reasons we are now seeing in our own nation, our own Administration performs a colour revolution against Americans. Just the beginning of sorrows.


2,418 posted on 05/03/2024 1:38:41 PM PDT by RitaOK (Viva Christo Rey. For Greater Glory. HIS. )
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