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To: whitney69

Your list of schools kind of reinforces my point. If UC Berkeley and Harvard, for example, are producing Nobel laureates, then you have a hard time making the case that Ohio State (for example) only produces them because it has a boatload of revenue from its Division I sports program. I would say it’s the exact opposite, and that OSU would have produced Nobel laureates even if it had a Division III sports program.


81 posted on 04/08/2024 9:18:36 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (If something in government doesn’t make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars.)
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To: Alberta's Child

“that Ohio State (for example) only produces them because it has a boatload of revenue from its Division I sports program.

Ohio State’s athletic department had “a record-breaking year in operating revenue” in FY2023 by generating just over $279.5M with expenses of more than $274.9M. OSU’s revenue total “edged out Texas A&M” for the most nationally. The school’s revenue increased $28M from FY2022, “an increase of about 11%.” Most of that came from “more football ticket sales and because Ohio State had eight home games in 2022 compared to seven in ‘21.” OSU’s football program generated more than $127M in FY2023 with a surplus of $55M, while men’s basketball had revenues over $24M with a profit of almost $10M. Those sports “subsidized the rest of OSU’s 34 sports, which had costs exceeding revenues by almost” $56M. OSU had “a big increase” in revenue from royalties, licensing, advertising and sponsorships, going from $30M the previous year to almost $43M (COLUMBUS DISPATCH, 1/23).

And if they are one of the determined teams, which they will be, those numbers are going to increase while the smaller schools are going to lose revenue. And with that status teams like OSU will be getting a larger share of the television revenue also as they will be the featured games and with that will be selling more applied sales items like jersies, hats, and pennants to the public because that’s who the public sees.

So granting teams like them is going to shut down the other schools revenue possibilities. Tha $70+ million dollar profit from their sports programs last year without the assistance of the prime sports recognition is going to skyrocket under this proposed sports recognition. And when you consider there will be a number of schools fighting for the dollar the point spread will go un-noticed.

And the bowl games for football are going to get rediculous. Did you know that last year, only 26 of the 41 bowl games actually had a game where both teams were over .500? That means that better than a third if all bowl games last year was being played by substandard teams that just barely break even...both teams. So who’s good and who isn’t. So how are they going to determine who’s in and who’s out of that elite group? On any given day, any division 1 team in the nation can beat the other. An example of that is that Alabama, an FBS team, was beat by Texas A&M who finished #18 in he nation.

But if a select group is going to get the revenue by this style of selection, then other schools’ programs are going to go away and they will lose academics which is what they are supposed to be there for to begin with.

“...then you have a hard time making the case that Ohio State (for example) only produces them because it has a boatload of revenue from its Division I sports program.”

Shouldn’t be hard. We’re not talking about the quality of play, just the revenues from it. And you also can say that the reason the schools with highly funded classrooms are also drawing a number of the good students because they can afford to lure them there with facilities. And those facilities were paid in large amounts by the sports departments. So adding revenue to them by taking it away from others with TV contracts is not going to help the other universities to grow, but to shrink. Lesser facilities, lesser top quality students. And the just get by’s, are going to be gone.

wy69


94 posted on 04/08/2024 11:42:11 AM PDT by whitney69 (yption tunnels)
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To: Alberta's Child

“that Ohio State (for example) only produces them because it has a boatload of revenue from its Division I sports program.

Ohio State’s athletic department had “a record-breaking year in operating revenue” in FY2023 by generating just over $279.5M with expenses of more than $274.9M. OSU’s revenue total “edged out Texas A&M” for the most nationally. The school’s revenue increased $28M from FY2022, “an increase of about 11%.” Most of that came from “more football ticket sales and because Ohio State had eight home games in 2022 compared to seven in ‘21.” OSU’s football program generated more than $127M in FY2023 with a surplus of $55M, while men’s basketball had revenues over $24M with a profit of almost $10M. Those sports “subsidized the rest of OSU’s 34 sports, which had costs exceeding revenues by almost” $56M. OSU had “a big increase” in revenue from royalties, licensing, advertising and sponsorships, going from $30M the previous year to almost $43M (COLUMBUS DISPATCH, 1/23).

And if they are one of the determined teams, which they will be, those numbers are going to increase while the smaller schools are going to lose revenue. And with that status teams like OSU will be getting a larger share of the television revenue also as they will be the featured games and with that will be selling more applied sales items like jersies, hats, and pennants to the public because that’s who the public sees.

So granting teams like them is going to shut down the other schools revenue possibilities. Tha $70+ million dollar profit from their sports programs last year without the assistance of the prime sports recognition is going to skyrocket under this proposed sports recognition. And when you consider there will be a number of schools fighting for the dollar the point spread will go un-noticed.

And the bowl games for football are going to get rediculous. Did you know that last year, only 26 of the 41 bowl games actually had a game where both teams were over .500? That means that better than a third if all bowl games last year was being played by substandard teams that just barely break even...both teams. So who’s good and who isn’t. So how are they going to determine who’s in and who’s out of that elite group? On any given day, any division 1 team in the nation can beat the other. An example of that is that Alabama, an FBS team, was beat by Texas A&M who finished #18 in he nation.

But if a select group is going to get the revenue by this style of selection, then other schools’ programs are going to go away and they will lose academics which is what they are supposed to be there for to begin with.

“...then you have a hard time making the case that Ohio State (for example) only produces them because it has a boatload of revenue from its Division I sports program.”

Shouldn’t be hard. We’re not talking about the quality of play, just the revenues from it. And you also can say that the reason the schools with highly funded classrooms are also drawing a number of the good students because they can afford to lure them there with facilities. And those facilities were paid in large amounts by the sports departments. So adding revenue to them by taking it away from others with TV contracts is not going to help the other universities to grow, but to shrink. Lesser facilities, lesser top quality students. And the just get by’s, are going to be gone.

wy69


95 posted on 04/08/2024 11:42:12 AM PDT by whitney69 (yption tunnels)
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